If someone takes a plea, it automatically means he's guilty. Just ask Sauto.

If he knows better he won’t show his face in this thread...


REMEMBER

Tyreek doesn’t know he’s being recorded, he has no reason to lie, she changes the topic right away. Then you have all the facts like him calling cops on her etc...


This good digging bitch is exactly that, and she’s ****ing dumb. I honestly believe the FBI does have open investigation for extortion.

good old connie jo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Her sworn prelim trial testimony. Police reports, including Hill called cops on her as the aggressor before DV claim. Her claim of severity didn&#39;t match evidence. Injuries minor, consistent with a scuffle. Talked to people in position at OSU, &amp; more. I spent weeks investigating.</p>&mdash; Connie Jo (@cjkc63) <a href="https://twitter.com/cjkc63/status/1148747556920397824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Because they said they did!!! WOW!

****ing RATIO

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ROFL

SJWs aside, Tyreek's reputation could actually eventually come out of this cleaner then it was before this all went down last spring. Crazy.

It's hilarious that Crystal's plot completely backfired.

She wanted Tyreek's money, he took back his reputation.

I was thinking about this today, and there's a lot of poetic justice here. She secretly recorded him so she could blackmail him, and then it turns out that the recording is the thing that completely exonerates him. I love it.

I never said that.

Seriously ROFL

Let's DO IT!!!

https://www.change.org/p/kctv-5-fire...omote_or_share

It just shows the Lord is on our side.

And when I say 'the Lord,' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

That's what I assumed you meant.

I like Seth's writing & his takes are grounded in defensible observations, whether you agree with them or not.

But he completely jumped the gun on this one & deserves some heat. He is owning up to his mistake & I think he would agree that he has earned some negative repercussions.

Mellinger has actually been the voice of reason in all of this, despite how bad the Star has been overall.

Yep...Hill is going to get cleansed of the 2014 stigma.

NFL is going to have quite a story leading up to the SB...

comeback player of the year

I follow him on social media and he is on several of the podcasts I listen to as a regular guest and even a host on one. He has stated multiple times that his comment was based on the knowledge he had at the time. As more and more came out he talked about how this information or that information could change things. Keep in mind he is a Family lawyer that works with child services. These are the types of cases he deals with all the time.


Has anyone else that commented negatively when the edited audio came out apologized?
I know Brit Chief, Shaggy Shane and many others blasted Hill pretty hard.

Not to apologize completely for the reporter who broke the story, but as an FYI, something like this isn't the reporter's call as to what to release.

I certainly think they made a HUGE mistake and deceptively and selectively chose what to air and what not to air. But that decision is made by higher ups and lawyers for the Meredith Corp, not the reporter who breaks the story. There were tons of discussions and situations that needed to be accounted for such as 1) would releasing the audio put her in danger since he was unaware 2) would it disclose their source and put that source of the audio in danger 3) what are the legalities in releasing ANY of the audio considering where it was recorded and the fact it was not a two party consent, etc.

That being said, KCTV5 can suck a fat one for all I care. I don't blame the reporter, I blame the entire station, the executives and the lawyers who did it KNOWING they weren't sharing the whole story and knowing that what they did release would paint a completely one sided picture. They all look bad IMO.

Tyreek Hill was fully aware of that audio, believe me.

And the reporter still bears responsibility. She is supposed to have ethics. It would have been very easy for her to tell them 'no ****ing way, this is wrong.'

She smelled blood in the water and wanted to make a mark.

Enjoy your pathetic 1600 twitter followers, surely dwindling by the day, wrongcono.

What do you mean?

the tape was leverage to get tyreek to keep shoveling money at the espinals and stay with jezebel

they tried to blackmail him, he said **** off, they played their card, cheetah squatted his spotted haunches down and took a big shit on it

started from the bottom now we here

From what I was told, he was made aware the audio was being released a few hours before it was actually aired. And the Chiefs were made aware the same time frame as well. The audio was in KCTV5's possession for a lot longer than a few days before it finally aired.

Not saying I disagree with anything you said above, and I certainly think she bears SOME responsibility, but I gather it was a long a debated process about what, when and how to release the audio. And they clearly screwed the pooch for ratings and breaking news. It makes me hate the media even more , which I didn't think was possible. It's truly difficult and almost irresponsible these days to take news as just face value. You're not supposed to have to be skeptical of everything you hear on the news, but "journalism" is so far down the shitter it's halfway to the sewage plant.

But just to restate....this was a corporate call as to what aired and what was edited. The whole station, but mostly the lawyers and executives deserve most of the blame.

Not disagreeing with this. I'm sure someone else would have taken credit if she didn't.

She did, she put her name on it, time to eat shit.

At least she had the balls to do that unlike "Star editorial board."

So, fuck them all, then?

I'm good with that.

FAX

When JJ Abrams makes a shitty Star Wars movie I don't blame Disney.

JJ is a hack.

Agreed.

Why did the Chiefs suspend Hill? That doesn't make any sense at all.

They knew exactly what had happened.

for the SJW's. They didnt want to get into it with them, and wanted to wait until all this shit happened. There is a reason why this tape got leaked BEFORE the Goodell ruling came out! They wanted to try to do as much repairing to Hill's name as possible At least thats a highly likely reason.

Optics. Keep a big distraction away from the team. Tyreek at OTAs, mobbed by reporters? Not good.

The Chiefs did everything they were supposed to do. Now Tyreek looks at the Chiefs as wow they had my back the whole time. I wanna retire here. I hope Tyreek gets every penny he’s asking for, he deserves it

Do you think the Chiefs would really care? This shit galvanizes them. Pat's their ****ing leader, FFS. Give them some credit.

Clark finally looks like the owner he is supposed to be!! Big Dick Clark!!

Who do we nominate to start the HE GOOD thread once Goodell clears him

if they didnt care, they wouldnt have cut out the media! So, yeah they care.

Props to Clark Hunt through this entire ordeal

Guy has been ****ing nails.

I kind of think that the Kareem Hunt situation served as a bit of a training ground for the Chiefs in this situation. Kareem was unintentionally sacrificed so that Tyreek could be saved.

Would you rather have Hunt or Hill??

All of this has been a huge bonding moment for this team

Now they have an "it's us against the world" type mentality.

They're ****ing ready to go

Smarten up.
I’d expect this from Deberg or “voyager”.
Not company you want to keep....

It’s a tough one, but I’m gonna have to go with the fastest football player in the history of football at a position of higher value.

Hunt is great...Hill is generational.

Hunt is out for 8 games.

Tyreek is fast. but not faster than 100M Olympic gold medallist Bob Hayes( has the fastest 100M relay time ever on the final leg)

****ing Hill, 1 million times Hill. He's a game changer much like Mahomes. Hunt is not.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Extremely irresponsible journalism from KC news orgs when the edited clip was released. <a href="https://t.co/BL3SS9wjUJ">https://t.co/BL3SS9wjUJ</a></p>&mdash; Ian Kenyon (@IanKenyonNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/IanKenyonNFL/status/1148726520367714304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this a serious question?

Link?

Here, to us, sure...in any other NFL circle probably not. Go look at his stuff anywhere else it's still a huge ratio most people saying he's a ****ing abuser and he's gaslighting etc etc.

We are going to be the villain this year, we post a good record look like a bowl favorite there are going to be articles about how we are an example of the NFL's domestic abuse problem.

So it begins.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yup, I’m no longer hosting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsRewind?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsRewind</a> either - found out last week (so no need to connect imaginary dots). Shift in what they wanted to do and that’s their decision to make. Danan is the man and somebody is going to be lucky to have him- enjoyed those Sundays my friend!! <a href="https://t.co/lGZCMITXLp">https://t.co/lGZCMITXLp</a></p>&mdash; TOM MARTIN ™️ (@TomKCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomKCTV5/status/1148943239656984578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sucks for Tom, but it was necessary. He was one of the good ones, but his station has now ****ed him over.

Agreed. Poor bastard.

So what does him getting fired have to do with this whole ordeal?

It's channel 5...it shows the Chiefs are pulling access from them.

I mean, maybe I guess?

The preseason game contract is up after this year....they're ****ed on that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLTotalAccess?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLTotalAccess</a> last night on the new developments with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> star Tyreek Hill (which were not new to NFL investigators). <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/qZGjTCSA3n">pic.twitter.com/qZGjTCSA3n</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1148957412533198848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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“No disciplinary decision is imminent.”

So next week?

Well, those are some explosive revelations.

Everything I heard early on was based on information from Espinal’s camp. Clearly, as time has borne out, there were exaggerations and outright lies coming from that direction.

I’m guilty of following normal patterns and believing the initial reports of the alleged victim. Highly questionable at best now, and in all likelihood erroneous.

Someone hurt the kid. Someone went too far. Looks more and more likely that was the mother or someone else.

What’s particularly crappy about this whole ordeal - beyond the impacts to Tyreek Hill, who looks like a victim now and maybe even in 2014 - is that instances like this, especially public ones, just make it harder for actual victims of domestic abuse to report and be believed and get the protection and justice they deserve.

This type of outcome - where it really is a potentially crazy or imbalanced person trying to set someone up - is incredibly rare in everyday life. Occam’s razor usually applies (and can be proven).

Anyway, I’ll wear this one. My people were wrong because they were being fed some lies.

:clap:

Your apologies and crow eating do not excuse your behavior. That goes for all of you ****heads that presumed guilt without evidence.

Yeah let's beat him up! Break his arm!!

Preach!! Nowadays everyone wants to label people guilty until proven innocent. Why is that? It’s always been innocent until proven guilty according to the law

While I fully understand what you're saying because of the same beliefs you say here there are many people that will refuse to admit that Hill isn't a monster.

ok. who wants the sneak peek.

you have to be cool and you have to SWEAR not to give out the link.

Why are you so worried about all these other people? It's all you've talked about for 2 days.

Because that is what the NFL cares about, public perception. It's everything I hate about todays world, no one is informed, they just spew talking points and refuse to look at anything objectively.

Also the term gaslighting, I hate it.

I don't think Tom got fired, I think they just pulled him and Danan off of the pregame show.

meeeeeeeee

I'm sure if Tyreek was a Raider, everyone here would be looking at it this "objectively".

Who cares what they all think. It doesn't matter.

Sneak peak? Clay are you gunning for Jeff Rosens job?

A lot of people fell for it.

LMAO Y'all still butthurt about discussions from 3 months ago and I'm just glad Tyreek isn't getting suspended but 2 games at most and he's in counseling for the corporal punishment. Move on, sign him to his contract, and we're well on our way.

The bigger issue is some people, and they know who they are, not only proclaimed Hill guilty out of the gate but also told those who said "this doesn't sound right, we need to wait for all the facts.." that we had no clue of what we were talking about and we were just being homers and what not.

Truth is it was more than obvious that something wasn't right about this right from the off. Few bothered to question what was being reported and how.

Sneak peek of what? That makes a big difference in my decision.

you're cool

please tell everyone of the greatness that is coming

Idiotically so. All I can say as to why I didn't "fall for it" was because I actually looked at the events being reported and how they were reported.

A) Reek and Espinal are accused of leaving the child at home alone.

+

B) Case as closed within days

+

C) Few days later it was reported that Reek broke the kids arm months before A even happened

=

WTF would someone not report the more serious of the two instances to begin with?

People are more than welcome to go back and look at my statements right from the start. I said this smelled like a family member or friend meddling and trying to cause shit.

It wasn't hard to deduce if you kept an objective mind about it all.

They said worse things than we were just being homers and what not. Way worse.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yup, what Sam said. I wish I’d heard the whole thing, in its entirety from the beginning, instead of selected clips.</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1148972867029295104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>