Nope, he’s still being a raging dickhead.

TRUTH!

I told him that couple months back. He insisted that I had him confused with someone else. Um...I don't think so. LMAO

Are we still talking about how the Chiefs under-performed their way to winning the Super Bowl because they didn't beat the Texans well enough?

even lost to the Colts, what a shit Superbowl winning team

Now you're being dishonest. It wasn't just that they didn't beat theTexans well enough, they had the wrong people scoring touchdowns too. That's proof that they are on the edge of being bad.

Life's stages in cellophane. The sound of candy getting unwrapped. The sound of condoms taken out of the packaging.
The sound of DeAndre Hopkins old bones collapsing in practice

You're almost never rational. And I'm not going to go back and repost 20 posts worth of data. Especially when you typically throw a fit and post something like "I'm not even going to read this because ____!!!!"

That's on you.

And I don't think everyone here is wrong. I know you're usually wrong. There's a difference.

ILC (I like chiefs)

He still loves Orlando Brown Jr, that's a big indicator where his acuity leads.

This probably explains a lot.

Reminds me of the infamous 'Regress Mahomes to the Mean' post from reddit... what if their strengths were weaknesses and their weaknesses were still weaknesses?!?

My GOD! Should we panic?

Back to the original topic.

Have we signed this POS yet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AZCardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AZCardinals</a> WR DeAndre Hopkins is set to visit the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> next week, sources say. This is after his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> visit, as Hopkins’ free agent market heats up. New England could add a top pass-catcher for Mac Jones. <a href="https://t.co/ip2KCk2pLN">pic.twitter.com/ip2KCk2pLN</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1667138612964540417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I always like to start the day watching "who can knock off the Chiefs" videos and giving myself a panic attack, really gets the juices flowing.

Seems to be less of them this year , We broke a lot if analysts last year but I’m sure most of them will remind us why the word anal is part of their chosen profession

Oh boy, if the Pats land Hopkins they might be looking at an 8 or 9 win season and could potentially avoid a last place finish in their division! What are we going to do????

It's happening with the Chargers, again. Seeing a lot of "Michael Lombardi was the problem" buzz.

And yeah, Lombardi hyper focuses on the short pass game. But the idea for some seems to be that he wasn't good, at all.

I suspect the Chargers will end up throwing more deep shots (and being more explosive, potentially, as a result), but that some aspects of their short passing game that have been positives (consistency, moving the chains, gaining a lot of positive yardage) may step back... and they end up roughly the same.

The question could also be asked... does a more explosive, less consistent offense (that isn't as good at methodical, clock-chewing drives) mesh well with Brandon Staley?

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Didn't you hear? The Bengals would have beaten us if Tyler Boyd didn't get hurt. We just aren't good at all one bit no sir!

Its not their scheme, coach or Herbert's fault. Mahomes is a unicorn. If he was on the Bears, they'd be contending by now.

If your QB is good your team can do both effectively, see.Mahomes, Patrick

:facepalm:

The Chiefs have little to do with the Chargers laughable failures. Having another great team in the divison doesn't excuse shit like the Jags playoff game.

Interesting.... I'm not at all in depth into their scheme, but for whatever reason don't see them as a short pass team. That could just be given their strategy against the Chiefs or bias towards when they're behind in games.

Whatever keeps Staley there longer though, he's an idiot.

Imagine telling people you want a ring not $ then signing with NE to play with Mac Jones over Patrick Mahomes.

Yeah, I don't think of them that way, either. But there are several national guys who have complained about that scheme not taking advantage of Herbert's abilities. So we'll see.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious he's just chasing the money. I don't blame him though. These guys have a very limited time to make as much as they can, but don't claim that you want to go to a contender to chase a ring

League circles say...

Become a gog in a dynasty wheel or get paid and be the team's big deal. Egos prevail

He's going to go where he gets the most $ guys.

Was always going to be the case.

Exactly, JJ Watt also said he wanted to play for a Super Bowl contender. He went to Arizona ROFL

https://twitter.com/erjmanlasvegas/s...kwVVahNBMPqdzA

I'm not sure what you're trying to excuse from the Chargers by sighting Mahomes greatness but a LOT of the Chargers problems are a result of the scheme and coach.

Lol. So he gonna go play for Billy O' Brian eh?

LMAO

Pats are the worst team in that division and have no shot at the playoffs.

Dude was, is and will always be about the $$$$.

When he was doing his podcast tours, someone shoulda asked him, "Would you rather play with Mahomes for $5m, or Mac Jones for $10M"

That's the real question that shoulda been asked.

Meh I don't know, I'm guessing he does want to sign with a contender BUT why not go visit some teams that are willing to pay you what you want FIRST before deciding? Might end up really liking the teams atmosphere and worst case he takes a look at all his options and maybe with taking a visit with non contending teams he gets more money from us or another contender.

Makes sense to me /shrug

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You know I do my job man.”<br><br>The mutual respect between Bill Belichick and DeAndre Hopkins was on full display in Arizona last season. <a href="https://t.co/sDnYwcGUFK">pic.twitter.com/sDnYwcGUFK</a></p>&mdash; Mike Kadlick (@mikekadlick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikekadlick/status/1667154494260404224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is why, Belichick loves the guy.

No question.

Problem is BoB doesn't, and Hopkins probably isn't excited to work with Billy either.

If Billy Bob wasn't their OC, I'd think there was a decent chance. But he is, so I doubt there's any real chance of it.

I think it's a leverage move and honestly I think he just is doing Belichick a solid.

I could be wrong, because I know little to nothing about how agent's do their business, but it feels like his agent set up some visits with a few teams, like a publicity tour. Otherwise the NE and TEN visits make no sense.

I know it's how things are done when a star becomes a free agent, but when a guy starts going on a very public "tour" of suitors, I immediately lose interest because it comes off as supremely douchey and "me first".

The Chiefs don't need that shit.

Again why wouldn't he go look at every option he has? Can't blame the guy for that

If he goes to NE, he has to realize he's finishing 4th place and going nowhere.

Hopefully, he is just trying to drive the price up on KC, or he wants to feel wined and dined one last time before he signs. If he wants to win jack shit, he'll come here. His options are lose, lose more, or sign in KC for a year and win and rebuild your value.

I don't blame him, but he's a "me first" guy and the Chiefs don't need that.

LMAO JJ Watt never gave a flying **** about playing for a Super Bowl.

Do I? Where did I say that? Why ya lying dude?

I'm very rational. I'm just passionate, sorry if you had your feelings hurt or something. 20 posts worth of data huh? I haven't seen any data to prove the offense wasn't good. Just because you are full of shit doesn't mean you have to lie and give me the ole find it yourself response.

I typically do that? I don't think I've posted that more than once. What am I wrong about?

And playing for an OC who as his former HC compared him to Aaron Hernandez.

Hopkins is selling his soul for $$$ if his interest in the Faketriots is legit and not just for leverage.

He's a free agent in June. Probably needs to take all calls at this point.

Kelce is single and already here, is why he plays cheaper. Other players taking less is "uncommon."

aint nobody signed this piece of shit yet?

Probably needs to lower his expectations and take what he can get at this point.

Win a ring and become a champion or throw another 3 -5 million on the pile. Honestly if he becomes famous for more than Football he can make it up after he’s done playing.

How confident are we that Veach has had any real interest in signing Hopkins after he signed James and Watson?

Sure seems like those 2 moves closed that door. Especially with Skyy, Rice, Toney and MVS being absolute locks…and the coaches giving Watson a 2 year deal with guarantees, signing James and gushing about Justyn Ross to all media.

I have doubts that Veach has even contacted Hopkins agent whatsoever snd might have not even talked with Arizona since before the draft and pivoted to Rice as the “plan b” at the big WR to replace Jujus role in the offense.

I don't think DHop was ever really in the plans. Nothing that has been reported this year as rumor has been even remotely right.

OBJ was getting tagged - Nope, didn't even want him for cheap

Juju was a priority - Nope didn't even want him for MVS money.

Chiefs loved Frank and wanted to bring him back - Nope didn't even offer him.

The guys that report and follow this team don't actually get fed with any info. I don't think anyone in the media has any sources inside this team. The Chiefs run a tight ship and you never really hear rumors during free agency about who they'll sign.

He'd rather tap cellulite Betty on a bed of bucks

I think if Hopkins doesn't find what he wants on in TEN, BOS, or elsewhere he comes back around to our offer.

Whoa! Hadn't noticed that yet, WTF!? Why are we paying MVS more than JuJu got on the open market instead of paying JuJu!?

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Patriots or Titans are probably the best outcome, if he’s not signing with us Atleast he signs with a team that isn’t a threat and can possibly give our actual threats more of a challenge.

At this point, should he consider to wait until after training camp or some of preseason to see who gets injured if he’s all about the money? I don’t know enough about the cap to know if a team got desperate if they could overpay?

… Because Valdez-Scantling is legitimately elite at threatening the deep portions of the field, and Smith-Schuster doesn’t really offer any elite skills at this point.

That does it DeAntonio!!! Sign today or Billay will let you rape him!!!!

Richard James will handle JJSS role - and probably won't be much drop off other than a few inches of height.

With respect to MVS, "elite" is a bit of a stretch.

Hopkins will always have his personally signed Knute Rockne kodaks

MVS has elite speed.

It isn’t. Not when we’re talking about the speed he presents on deep routes and the threat that provides to the defense.

It keeps teams from rotating up towards the line, forces them to continue accounting for deep balls like they had to when Hill was in KC.

Valdes-Scantling has elite long speed for the NFL. Outside of Jalen Waddle and Hill, you’re not going to find a guy with more.

He fills an important and valuable role in the offensive design. Which many people seem to not credit or not understand.

I can agree with the above description as a role-player, for sure, but I think "elite role-player" is still an oxymoron.

Here's an interesting perspective on this debate, maybe. Where does MVS rank amongst the top deep-speed threats in the NFL? Who are the top 10?

Meh just don’t agree with how some think MVS is so important. His targets should reduce this season because of the young guys getting them. Yes having a deep threat is great but why can’t those snaps be spread out thus making them more lethal because teams won’t know who is the fly route. Hell Toney is faster and when you take vertical into consideration, can also high ball better than MVS.

You’re correct in saying MVS keeps teams honest but that also means big plays are almost never there. All of our WRs have good enough speed to run MVS routes and would keep the D more honest in my opinion.

Couch-Potato and Balto in a "MVS deserves to be traded" discussion. Who could have seen that coming? Not me.

2150?

The obvious answer is you CANNOT count on Toney - like at all. He's a china doll. If he makes it in 75% of the games next season it may be a miracle.

Did I miss the contract signing?

Yes. The details aren't out yet, but rumor has it he signed for the league minimum just for the opportunity to wear the red and gold

Lol, wrong again. How shocking.ROFL

No, it's an elite 'skill-set', which is important for the offense to function. A lot of people don't seem to get how this offense works. You need a real threat to just blow by everyone to clear out the intermediate area.

The routes are all combinations that threaten the defense's coverage rules in different ways in different areas, and all of them work together to create advantages.

One can have an elite skill and still be a role player.

As far as deep speed threats, he’s in that group for me because of the combination of his pure speed AND demonstrated ability to stack defenders on deep routes and track the ball downfield.

There are probably guys who are faster - like Hardman, for example - who are not as dangerous on deep routes because they don’t have the other skills.

I’d put Hill first and probably Waddle second. After that, I don’t know that there’s one burner type I’d separate as clearly above the rest. Valdes-Scantlibg is in consideration there.

Hyatt might prove to be, if he can translate his abilities to a regular NFL role rather than the schemed one he had in college.

Plaxico Burress says he only wants to practice once a week

I didn't hear or read 'once a week,' but I did read that he wasn't practicing everyday with ARI.


However, he also said in one of those podcast interviews (think it was the McAfee show) that if he went to a team like the Chiefs that he would practice everyday, to develop chemistry with the QB and learn the offense.

He's a decoy but necessary. If teams do decide to try to play us straight up Mahomes will be more than happy to throw it over their head.

There's gotta be 30-40 NFL wide receivers better than MVS. Not being a hater, he made some big time catches down the stretch. Just stating the obvious.