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Lumpy 05-19-2013 03:09 PM

$4.29/gal in Omaha. Redamndiculous!!!

Donger 05-19-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9692172)
Who is "we"? Since the only person who buys gas for my car is me, that's actually an "I." And "I" don't really give a shit what the national average is, douche. I don't buy my gas in bumble**** Mississippi, so if it's selling down there for $2.00, that really has no bearing on my life. What matters to me is that it's $4.20 right now in my area, and even higher at other places locally.

I think we've had this discussion before. The national average is the only relevant figure. I understand that you don't like that, but that doesn't change the fact that local spot prices are simply part of the overall picture.

Oh, and the price in Chicago one year ago was $4.16.

Frazod 05-19-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy (Post 9692259)
$4.29/gal in Omaha. Redamndiculous!!!

You should tell them you're only going to pay the national average. Donger said so.

Donger 05-19-2013 03:40 PM

Oh, and I did find out the reason for the spike in the Midwest: refinery maintenance and outages at the following locations...

Eldorado KS
Joliet IL
Whiting IN
Tulsa OK

Frazod 05-19-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9692349)
Oh, and I did find out the reason for the spike in the Midwest: refinery maintenance and outages at the following locations...

Eldorado KS
Joliet IL
Whiting IN
Tulsa OK

That's nice. I'm sure none of it was intentional.

Donger 05-19-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9692356)
That's nice. I'm sure none of it was intentional.

Of course it was intentional. They have to perform maintenance and they also have to switch from winter to summer blends, by law.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-19-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9692349)
Oh, and I did find out the reason for the spike in the Midwest: refinery maintenance and outages at the following locations...

Eldorado KS
Joliet IL
Whiting IN
Tulsa OK

That's what I heard, but I was curious. It seems a bit ****ed to me that they decide to do some maintenance on their facilities, and then outages hit the rest of them. Oil is one of the shadiest businesses on the planet.

Frazod 05-19-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9692394)
That's what I heard, but I was curious. It seems a bit ****ed to me that they decide to do some maintenance on their facilities, and then outages hit the rest of them. Oil is one of the shadiest businesses on the planet.

No it's not/Donger

Donger 05-19-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9692394)
That's what I heard, but I was curious. It seems a bit ****ed to me that they decide to do some maintenance on their facilities, and then outages hit the rest of them.

The best time for them to do maintenance is during the switch from winter to summer blends. If you've ever performed maintenance on any equipment, you know that sometimes things happen during the maintenance that you weren't expecting, which can cause delays in getting the equipment up and running again.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9692394)
Oil is one of the shadiest businesses on the planet.

This will probably end up with the refineries losing more money than they would if the refineries had no issues, by the way. The retailers are the ones raising prices, not the refineries.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-19-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9692573)
The best time for them to do maintenance is during the switch from winter to summer blends. If you've ever performed maintenance on any equipment, you know that sometimes things happen during the maintenance that you weren't expecting, which can cause delays in getting the equipment up and running again.



This will probably end up with the refineries losing more money than they would if the refineries had no issues, by the way. The retailers are the ones raising prices, not the refineries.

So those guys who swear they only make a nickel a gallon, are now jumping it up to 50 cents and more?

Donger 05-19-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9692612)
So those guys who swear they only make a nickel a gallon, are now jumping it up to 50 cents and more?

Possibly, yes. As has been discussed, the price that you pay at the pump is the retailers' replacement price. They've already paid for what is in their tanks. They're basically looking at the present and what they think will happen with the refiners, and price accordingly. Sometimes they guess right and sometimes they guess wrong. It's not unusual for a retailer to actually sell gasoline for less than they paid for it. In the end, yes, it works out to about 5 to 10 cents per gallon profit. They make their real profit on the other stuff in the store.

Frazod 05-19-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9692612)
So those guys who swear they only make a nickel a gallon, are now jumping it up to 50 cents and more?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UDhZ3X87x6...Jon+Lovitz.jpg

Bowser 05-19-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9692630)
Possibly, yes. As has been discussed, the price that you pay at the pump is the retailers' replacement price. They've already paid for what is in their tanks. They're basically looking at the present and what they think will happen with the refiners, and price accordingly. Sometimes they guess right and sometimes they guess wrong. It's not unusual for a retailer to actually sell gasoline for less than they paid for it. In the end, yes, it works out to about 5 to 10 cents per gallon profit. They make their real profit on the other stuff in the store.

They're essentially selling gasoline out of the good of their hearts? What swell people!

Donger 05-19-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9692649)
They're essentially selling gasoline out of the good of their hearts? What swell people!

Not at all. They are in business to make a profit, just like every other other business.

BigMeatballDave 05-19-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9692349)
Oh, and I did find out the reason for the spike in the Midwest: refinery maintenance and outages at the following locations...

Eldorado KS
Joliet IL
Whiting IN
Tulsa OK

That explains the regional thing I mentioned.


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