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Mother****erJones 04-27-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10313421)
No. Given that Japanese star-level players tend to want to play in the coasts or Texas, we'd have to blow away every other offer to make him come to the midwest, and even a competitive offer would be too risky for KC given our resources.

edit: to be clear, since we don't actually have to pay the posting fee to talk to him (the old rules said we couldn't even talk to the guy unless we won the bid), someone in the Royals front office ought to have a chat with his agent just in case he freakishly comes from a long line of asian Royals fans and no one ever found out about it, but as soon as its clear that we can't get him, hang up the phone and never talk about it again.

Good call....not!

lewdog 04-27-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10589900)
Different perspective on things, it's cool.

I'm giving you the perspective, kid. It's ok to hate things.

Sure-Oz 04-27-2014 09:58 PM

Royals should've signed Cruz and left Gordon at leadoff, since he's doing that anyway

Stanley Nickels 04-27-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10589880)
I love the game of baseball. I love those who contribute to the great sport and respect the good in people. Jeter has been more then sensational for the game of baseball, his work ethic and his attitude towards the game is really something to advertise to the youth in the game. Although I'm not a fan of the Yankees as an organization, doesn't mean I can't respect those who made the game of baseball enjoyable for all of America.

How do you feel about "the game of baseball," though?

Simplicity 04-28-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10589939)
I'm giving you the perspective, kid. It's ok to hate things.

The Cardinals.

TambaBerry 04-28-2014 07:24 AM

Is Ned going to skip Chens start with today off?

BlackHelicopters 04-28-2014 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10590257)
Is Ned going to skip Chens start with today off?

I hope so.

htismaqe 04-28-2014 07:31 AM

You guys don't hate the Cardinals and Yankees. You're jealous of them.

:popcorn:

Three7s 04-28-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10590266)
You guys don't hate the Cardinals and Yankees. You're jealous of them.

:popcorn:

I don't hate either of the teams. Their fans annoy the crap out of me. Same with the Red Sox. (no offense MIAdragon)

duncan_idaho 04-28-2014 07:37 AM

I think the biggest problem with the lack of power is that the Royals' swings are so geared for the outside part of the plate, everyone seems to have lost the ability to hit the inside pitch.

Turning on inside pitches is the easiest way to drive the ball out of the yard.

We saw this yesterday with Hosmer... he drove that ball to the wall that Jones made the nice running catch on. It was a pitch right down central, and he got jammed by it a little bit.

I don't think it's as simple a problem as Pedro Grifol, though. It's becoming more and more clear that - just like with the pitching instruction guys were receiving - something was broken in the minor league system's hitting instruction (not surprising, considering that dumbass Jack Maloof was and still is involved at that level).

Moore had to make some changes with the pitching instruction when guys like Montgomery, Duffy, Dwyer, etc. started stalling at AA and above. It's probably past time to make a change with the hitting instruction, too.

Gordon, Hosmer and Moustakas especially were all the premium power-hitting prospects in their respective drafts. Somewhere along the way, they have lost that. Could it be all three guys just "busting" to a certain degree? Sure, it could. But when you're 0-3 on guys with that type of power as draft picks (and whose power still flashes in game action), clearly something is wrong.

Also: All of this shifting that teams are now doing is going to hurt teams that rely on balanced approaches/contact hitting/up-the-middle approaches more than anything else.

The speed and defense and contact game are going to be minimized with all these shifts. Can the Royals adjust?

Simplicity 04-28-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10590277)
I think the biggest problem with the lack of power is that the Royals' swings are so geared for the outside part of the plate, everyone seems to have lost the ability to hit the inside pitch.

Turning on inside pitches is the easiest way to drive the ball out of the yard.

We saw this yesterday with Hosmer... he drove that ball to the wall that Jones made the nice running catch on. It was a pitch right down central, and he got jammed by it a little bit.

I don't think it's as simple a problem as Pedro Grifol, though. It's becoming more and more clear that - just like with the pitching instruction guys were receiving - something was broken in the minor league system's hitting instruction (not surprising, considering that dumbass Jack Maloof was and still is involved at that level).

Moore had to make some changes with the pitching instruction when guys like Montgomery, Duffy, Dwyer, etc. started stalling at AA and above. It's probably past time to make a change with the hitting instruction, too.

Gordon, Hosmer and Moustakas especially were all the premium power-hitting prospects in their respective drafts. Somewhere along the way, they have lost that. Could it be all three guys just "busting" to a certain degree? Sure, it could. But when you're 0-3 on guys with that type of power as draft picks (and whose power still flashes in game action), clearly something is wrong.

Also: All of this shifting that teams are now doing is going to hurt teams that rely on balanced approaches/contact hitting/up-the-middle approaches more than anything else.

The speed and defense and contact game are going to be minimized with all these shifts. Can the Royals adjust?

It's an amazing deal that we've come this far and still at .500. Something needs to switch mentally or mechanically soon if we want to make something out of this season... We can't live off of 4 HRs a week for the whole year.

WilliamTheIrish 04-28-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10589724)
At this point the Royals need to be projecting these kinds of #'s (listed below). This is what they SHOULD be doing, and what we all expect from them. The only problem is, they're not who we all thought they were.


* This team should be hitting anywhere from 160-170 HRs a season, which would rank them approx 10th-15th (based on last season's ML team stats). For the past 20 years, Royals are always in the bottom 5 of this category...people need to stop blaming Kauffman Stadium for this.

* This team should be hitting around a collective .270-.280BA, which would rank them in the top5 (based on last season's ML team stats). Last season they were top 10 (9th), batting a collective .260, so there's no reason why this stat can't improve.

Folks, with our pitching staff, this is a WS team if our guys would be able to produce these kind of numbers:


1.RF-Aoki .285BA 7HR 55RBI 85R 15SB
2.2B-Infante .300BA 10HR 55RBI 65R
3.1B-Hosmer .290BA 25HR 85RBI 15SB
4.DH-Butler .300BA 35HR 105RBI
5.3B-Moustakas .285BA 25HR 80RBI
6.LF-Gordon .285BA 25HR 85RBI 15SB
7.C-Perez .290BA 20HR 80RBI
8.CF-Cain .265BA 10HR 55RBI 20SB
-->OF/PR-Dyson .260BA 40SB**
9.SS-Escobar .270BA 5HR 60RBI 40SB**

**Anytime when either Escobar or Dyson are on 1B with no one on 2B, with a RHP on the mound, these guys need to be stealing.

Where - LMAO - did you come up with these numbers?

Three7s 04-28-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10590277)
I think the biggest problem with the lack of power is that the Royals' swings are so geared for the outside part of the plate, everyone seems to have lost the ability to hit the inside pitch.

Turning on inside pitches is the easiest way to drive the ball out of the yard.

We saw this yesterday with Hosmer... he drove that ball to the wall that Jones made the nice running catch on. It was a pitch right down central, and he got jammed by it a little bit.

I don't think it's as simple a problem as Pedro Grifol, though. It's becoming more and more clear that - just like with the pitching instruction guys were receiving - something was broken in the minor league system's hitting instruction (not surprising, considering that dumbass Jack Maloof was and still is involved at that level).

Moore had to make some changes with the pitching instruction when guys like Montgomery, Duffy, Dwyer, etc. started stalling at AA and above. It's probably past time to make a change with the hitting instruction, too.

Gordon, Hosmer and Moustakas especially were all the premium power-hitting prospects in their respective drafts. Somewhere along the way, they have lost that. Could it be all three guys just "busting" to a certain degree? Sure, it could. But when you're 0-3 on guys with that type of power as draft picks (and whose power still flashes in game action), clearly something is wrong.

Also: All of this shifting that teams are now doing is going to hurt teams that rely on balanced approaches/contact hitting/up-the-middle approaches more than anything else.

The speed and defense and contact game are going to be minimized with all these shifts. Can the Royals adjust?

Well, in Gordon's case, he seems like he's wanting to pull everything. Pitchers have been going on the outside half of the plate, and he's been breaking a lot of bats and rolling over on it and hitting slow rollers to 2nd. Hosmer's swing seems geared towards the middle of the field/opposite field. It's quicker than it was earlier in the season, but he's not getting any backspin when he makes contact.

As for Moustakas, he's the only one really showing any power at all, and almost all of it pull power. He looks like he's trying to make an effort to go to left field, but he doesn't strike me as the type who can just flare liners in that area. He needs to shoot for the left field gap. But the whole line-up seems to have the "opposite field" mind-set, and that's flawed as pitchers will tear you apart on the inside half of the plate. Aoki's finding that out right now.

Deberg_1990 04-28-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10590277)
I think the biggest problem with the lack of power is that the Royals' swings are so geared for the outside part of the plate, everyone seems to have lost the ability to hit the inside pitch.

Turning on inside pitches is the easiest way to drive the ball out of the yard.

We saw this yesterday with Hosmer... he drove that ball to the wall that Jones made the nice running catch on. It was a pitch right down central, and he got jammed by it a little bit.

I don't think it's as simple a problem as Pedro Grifol, though. It's becoming more and more clear that - just like with the pitching instruction guys were receiving - something was broken in the minor league system's hitting instruction (not surprising, considering that dumbass Jack Maloof was and still is involved at that level).

Moore had to make some changes with the pitching instruction when guys like Montgomery, Duffy, Dwyer, etc. started stalling at AA and above. It's probably past time to make a change with the hitting instruction, too.

Gordon, Hosmer and Moustakas especially were all the premium power-hitting prospects in their respective drafts. Somewhere along the way, they have lost that. Could it be all three guys just "busting" to a certain degree? Sure, it could. But when you're 0-3 on guys with that type of power as draft picks (and whose power still flashes in game action), clearly something is wrong.

Also: All of this shifting that teams are now doing is going to hurt teams that rely on balanced approaches/contact hitting/up-the-middle approaches more than anything else.

The speed and defense and contact game are going to be minimized with all these shifts. Can the Royals adjust?


Agree 100% with all this. Whatever it is, it's mind boggling.


Will Myers seems to be having a sophomore slump as well....

htismaqe 04-28-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10590274)
I don't hate either of the teams. Their fans annoy the crap out of me. Same with the Red Sox. (no offense MIAdragon)

I grew up a Cardinals fan as did my dad. These days I'm a Royals fan, mostly because of this board and the guys here. I'm just not a hardcore baseball fan.

At any rate, I was poking fun...


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