I just got hat in the mail from the Chiefs..red with the AFL/LH patch on the front..

pretty cool.

I'd take Cassel and Vrabel over Chad Jackson, that's for sure.

His stats are pretty good. So there is hope.
I mean a 89 QB rating for the season is nothing to sneeze at

You clearly don't know what the hell you are talking about.

No offense intended.

Nobody wants to move up in this draft. Period. There is a huge lack of top ten talent in this draft. No, I think the implosion happens when Detroit passes on Matthew Stafford.

Well, there are some positives out of this move.

1.) We did acquire a young QB who we intend to develop as a franchise guy.
2.) Although I think he has some question marks, we are going to be developing him in pretty much the same system under the same type of leadership he had in his previous stop. It's not going to be a case of somebody playing for one coach and then going somewhere completely different under a different coach and trying to repeat the magic. Kind of the same thing as Trent Green, where he was able to come into a system he was very familiar with under the same leadership he had with the Rams, so the level of comfort should be high.

The negative is I don't know what you do with the 3rd pick if you don't draft Curry. Trading down and getting that 2nd back would reallly be cool, but we'll have to see on that.

But the potential is there that we just acquired our offense and defensive captains and leaders for a single draft pick. Definitely not a very safe deal, Very high risk deal, no doubt, it could be a sickening steal or it could flop. Although in reality if it does flop, we only lost a single 2nd round draft pick. Which has value (unless you're the Chiefs the last 15 years), but isn't the end of the world. The bigger test is not the draft pick but the number of years we've committed to Cassel now.

Either way, it's exciting that we're being extremely active in trying to get this thing turned around.

If we got Vrabel AND Cassell for a 2nd rounder like Peter King is reporting, we just bent NE over and pounded them right in the ass.

I actually completely agree with you, for once.

A fair deal IS a rape, by the standards of previous "so-so QB for pick(s)" deals. Vrabel as a throw-in is way better than Vrabel for a 5th rounder or something, too. Considering the market value for someone like this, it's a mind-boggling deal.

Brees had a rough time because that team was in shambles when he was drafted. He worked hard and led that team. I knew I liked the kid when I saw him at Arrowhead trying to rally the troops when we were shellacking the dolts. That kid doesn't have an ounce of quit in him.

He fell to the second because of his size. He isn't that "prototypical qb" the league drools over. I personally find that shit to be the reason so many qbs fail: teams look for 6'4", 230+lbs, with a rocket arm, rather than can the kid play?

the chiefs have confirmed compensation is just the #34 overall for both players reported on NFLN

**** CASSEL **** PIOLI AND **** THE CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!:cuss::cuss::cuss:

Compared to the Schaub deal, the Chiefs certainly robbed the pats.

Yep! Just heard it for myself on NFL network.

What a trade - Peterson could never have pulled both off for a 2nd round pick.

This seems like a great deal. A 2nd rounder isn't bad at all.

This makes Rosenfels for a 4th or whatever look pretty silly.

On paper, its pretty okay.