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Hootie 12-13-2010 02:38 AM

dude a Larry Fitzgerald trade is a no risk trade...

he is the ultimate team player with loads and loads of talent

he is made for new england, unfortunately

Rausch 12-13-2010 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7255289)
dude a Larry Fitzgerald trade is a no risk trade...

he is the ultimate team player with loads and loads of talent

he is made for new england, unfortunately

NE buys low and sells high.

Randy Moss, for example.

They milked that man for all he was worth and knew once he hit worthless.

And still got some for him...

Hootie 12-13-2010 02:45 AM

Randy Moss was a known team cancer...

Fitzgerald is not...

he's the ultimate Patriot in their eyes...I guarantee it...

they bought Welker for a 2nd and a 7th before Welker was Welker...

if they want Fitzgerald they'll pay for him...I know that for sure

Rausch 12-13-2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7255295)
Randy Moss was a known team cancer...

Fitzgerald is not...

he's the ultimate Patriot in their eyes...I guarantee it...

they bought Welker for a 2nd and a 7th before Welker was Welker...

BECAUSE THEY ****ING BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH.

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7255295)
if they want Fitzgerald they'll pay for him...I know that for sure

People who want crack bad enough will sell their kids for it.

NE won't.

It's not that he wouldn't be perfect, it's not that he wouldn't love to go there, it's that THEY DON'T NEED HIM as much as any other team.

So, other teams will be willing to pay/trade more.

Hootie 12-13-2010 03:35 AM

if Fitzgerald finds his way on the trade market...

I would bet the farm New England would end up with him...

he's a perfect fit for that organization and they have more available assets than any NFL team

Hootie 12-13-2010 03:37 AM

Fitzgerald is one of VERY FEW NFL players I'd give 2+ 1st round picks for...

New England could trade a 1, 1 and 3 for Fitz and their fan base would be ecstatic and their team would be exponentially better...

Fitz and Brady?

Fitz the ultimate route runner and team player on a Belichick team?

Frankly, that's downright FRIGHTENING...and I pray to God that doesn't happen.

I'd rather have my favorite football player (Fitzy) on the Broncos or Raiders than on the Patriots.

The Bad Guy 12-13-2010 08:05 AM

I think trading for a Fitz is pretty unnecessary for the Patriots and a move I can't see them making.

They value their draft picks above all else. They have a passing offense that is lights out right now with Welker, Branch and Tate. They went back to the Patriots heyday where you have a bunch of multi-dimensional receivers that individually don't overwhelm you, but collectively they are unstoppable.

I'd give a #1 and a #4 for Fitz and never think twice about it again. This offense needs someone to take the heat off Bowe and with Fitz's Haley connections, his relationship with Bowe and his work ethic, it's a natural fit.

Mr. Laz 12-14-2010 12:12 PM

The real Jamaal Charles numbers

Posted by Mike Florio on December 14, 2010, 11:14 AM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.word...wks2.jpg?w=250

As we predicted on Sunday, the contract given by the Chiefs to running back Jamaal Charles wasn’t as good as initially advertised.

We were confident in making the prediction because no contract ever ends up being as good as initially advertised.

Per a league source, the reported guarantee of $13 million is actually $8 million, in the form of a roster bonus paid upon (or not long after) execution of the deal. There’s another $2 million in injury guarantees only.

Also, the reported value of $32.5 million over five years (an average of $6.5 million) is the maximum package, with all incentives reached. The base package has an annual value closer to $5.5 million.


Though the drop isn’t as dramatic as the gap between the initial ESPN report and the subsequent ESPN report regarding Donovan McNabb’s deal with the Redskins, we hope that those of us who report the initial numbers eventually will acknowledge the fact that there’s a disconnect between those numbers and the real numbers.

Stinger 12-14-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7258070)
The real Jamaal Charles numbers

Posted by Mike Florio on December 14, 2010, 11:14 AM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.word...wks2.jpg?w=250

As we predicted on Sunday, the contract given by the Chiefs to running back Jamaal Charles wasn’t as good as initially advertised.

We were confident in making the prediction because no contract ever ends up being as good as initially advertised.

Per a league source, the reported guarantee of $13 million is actually $8 million, in the form of a roster bonus paid upon (or not long after) execution of the deal. There’s another $2 million in injury guarantees only.

Also, the reported value of $32.5 million over five years (an average of $6.5 million) is the maximum package, with all incentives reached. The base package has an annual value closer to $5.5 million.


Though the drop isn’t as dramatic as the gap between the initial ESPN report and the subsequent ESPN report regarding Donovan McNabb’s deal with the Redskins, we hope that those of us who report the initial numbers eventually will acknowledge the fact that there’s a disconnect between those numbers and the real numbers.

Dammit Carl!!!!!!! :cuss: :cuss:

Wait Wut ..............

milkman 12-14-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zonachief (Post 7255283)
I think fitz has a opt out clause in his contract so he would be a free agent.

I believe, though I might well be wrong, that his contract goes through 2012, and that opt out is after the '11 season.

vailpass 12-14-2010 12:19 PM

LMAO some of you are still talking about Fitz playing in KC with Cassel? LMAO

mcaj22 12-14-2010 12:20 PM

the opt out for Fitz and the Cards is AFTER the '11 season.

So if you Chiefs fans want him bad enough for next season and can't wait another year, Pioli would have to sell farm for him most likely on draft day to have a chance at him a year earlier than when he can actually opt out.

vailpass 12-14-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 7258088)
the opt out for Fitz and the Cards is AFTER the '11 season.

So if you Chiefs fans want him bad enough for next season and can't wait another year, Pioli would have to sell farm for him most likely on draft day to have a chance at him a year earlier than when he can actually opt out.

Fitz has a no-trade clause.

milkman 12-14-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 7258096)
Fitz has a no-trade clause.

Which he can waive if he so chooses.

vailpass 12-14-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7258106)
Which he can waive if he so chooses.

And he would...to go to a SB contender with a top-tier QB who will allow him to regain the level of play he had when Kurt was throwing to him. Or so says the local talk radio here.


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