It's way too early to tell. None of us know how the season will play out. For all we know, Cincy could lose Cueto and Milwaukee could lose Greinke. Strauss reported that if the Cards are near the top of the division or WC, they'd likely make a trade for a SP.

Who is going to be 1 2? Reds and Brewers?

With what?

The farm system is barren, and I don't want to give up Miller for a rental.

1. Brewers
2. Reds
3. Cardinals
4. Cubs
5. Astros
6. Pirates.

Maybe when you look at it on paper right now. But, the other division teams could fall apart too.

The reds.....chocked big time in the playoffs and at the end of the year.

The brewers.....they have no heart. Greinke could easily meltdown

The cubs....they always underperform

You don't they'd give up a guy like Greene to get a guy like Hernandez?

Felix?

There's nothing underperforming about the Cubs. The team makeup just isn't that good. HR or nothing hitters, no speed, bad defense, and mediocre pitching.

No, not that Hernandez. Livan. I'm thinking an innings eater. That could also be Milwood.

With carp aging and now waino.... No way they trade Shelby for anyone.

Livan's peripherals just scare the shit out of me. His WHIP is always astronomical, and he's usually good for an ERA of 4.5 or higher, even if he had a good year last year.

I'd rather hope that Ian Snell gets his shit together. That was one move I actually liked.

Another route the Cards could go is trading for Gorzelanny.

It's also no guarantee that Garcia is going to be able to handle another 180+ inning load. I'm seriously, seriously concerned about his ability to make it through a whole season.

Why the hell would you want him?

Bernie speculated about us bringing in Millwood. Better than nothing, I guess. Probably better than half of what we have.