[QUOTE=BlackOp;12093688]There are books about it...there have been a lot of investigations that get squashed. You are risking, potentially, your life to expose powerful people... who have the means to make life for your family miserable. Is it worth it...to take on the mob and a Billion dollar entertainment corporation? It's not even a sport..legally. The corporate media would discredit them...

Not everyone is in on it.....it's controlled.[/QUOTE]

:facepalm:
So what is a "sport," legally?

In 1989 WWF used the phrase in a case it made to the New Jersey Senate for classifying professional wrestling as "sports entertainment" and thus not subject to regulation like a directly competitive sport.

This how the NFL gets away with having unregulated officials...and the very core of controlling outcomes/point spreads. MLB, NHL, NBA...all have regulated, professional full-time officials. The NFL has recently gone a step further...routing all contested calls to a centralized "NFL Command Center" in NY.

Guys, the solution is clear... if its so fake and tainted, just stop watching it

If I honestly believed it to be that bad, I certainly wouldnt waste another single minute on it

Found this....

"1. Contrary to popular belief and to what he NFL wants you to think, there have been fixed games in league history. On page 308 of Dan Moldea's book "Interference" he lists over 70 NFL games that have been fixed and includes the names of the 2 referees involved in fixing those games. He also lists interviews with NFL HOF players most notably KC Chiefs QB Len Dawson. He, in detail with documented facts supported by FBI documents, has interviews with NFL players and known gambling associates to uncover massive game fixing in the league. He also notes, with evidence, throughout the book that no fewer than 26 NFL team owners have or have had continuous and developing relationships with the gambling world, most notably the Rooney, Bidwill, and Mara families all getting their starts as Bookmakers for established mid-west crime families and buying their NFL franchises with moneys earned from gambling. So that in and of itself is a hypocrisy number 1 on the NFL's "lilly white" reputation.

NFL Referees are part-time employees of the NFL. They are not employees of any team nor do they get paid anywhere close to the sums of NBA refs. NFL refs make between $25K to $70K per season. They work for the league and do what the league tells them to do. They are not there for "the integrity of the game". Referees, unlike other sports, are bound by NFL mandated gag orders which prevent them from talking to the media.

2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or

abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television."

So...why bound your hand picked, unregulated referee's to a NFL mandated gag order? Obviously they dont what them talking for a reason...


KC also hasn't been to a SB since Len Dawson talked to the FBI...interesting.

Blackop needs to come to reality. Quit watching if you think it's predetermined

This argument never made sense to me. You watch TV shows. Those are predetermined. As long as the viewer does not already know the outcome, how does it matter?

Most tv shows arent put out there as "real"

If someone feels duped by something, they should either stop watching it because being fooled offends them, or they can say "I like being made to look a fool" and keep watching

I dont like being lied to, and if I felt the NFL was flat out lying to me... my love for it would die

I'm pretty confident (not that I'm going to waste the time required to confirm), that the refs of all the major sports are employees of that league. They all "work for the league" in that sense. I see no relevance whatsoever to whether there are "gag orders" for refs, but would like to see some proof that they exist for NFL referees in some form different from the other sports.



Sooooo many things wrong here. SO MUCH STUPIDITY.

1. ONLY major league baseball has a complete, general, anti-trust exemption. The other professional sports (ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE NFL) have limited exemptions which really apply to marketing/merchandising, and most importantly, broadcast/TV rights.

2. Second, the 32 separate NFL teams **ARE** 32 separate legal entities, with different ownership, management, etc. they are NOT a "single entity". The NFL does have broadcast rights for the entire league, of course, pursuant to its exemption. Which the other sports leagues also have.

Ugh, i could go on but why bother. It's a bunch of idiocy.

Oh...I find the drafting/building a team part interesting. I just no longer expect KC to be in a Superbowl. I like watching them compete...until the last 8 or so minutes.

I dont have an emotional connection to the NFL anymore...this season was the test for me after the Dallas/Detroit rig job last post-season. I just needed confirmation. Watching the worst rated QB in football be handed a title... off name recognition sealed it. It was just marketing/profit sharing theater..

BlackOp sorta rhymes with Black Bob.

Wow, I never figured the reason KC ain't been back was because of Lenny and the FBI. That's wiggy.

Dinny

Bullshit...they share advertisement revenue evenly..which is the bulk of their profits. They are 32 tentacles stemming out from one giant pile of cash. They cant sell their team to whomever they wish...it has to be voted on. Ever seen an official jersey without an NFL badge on it...didnt think so. McDonald's doesn't share it's profits with Burger King.

The players aren't important, they're just the pawns. There's plenty of factors they use to appease owners and regions of the country and the afc v nfc bias.

So who's in on it? The teams? Players? Refs? Everyone down to the clock operators, ball boys, the guys that move the chains, etc.?

Do you realize how nuts you are?

Mob/owners...vicariously through their gag ordered refs.

You're assuming the story is true to begin with.