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DJ's left nut 02-17-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8380339)
A single elimination tournament will seldom give you the best overall team as the winner, when you have to win what 6 games in a row?

It happens but not very often. Hell I'd argue that the NFL doesn't give you the two best teams in the Final.

MLB and the NBA, having best of series, IMO are the best way to get a true champion.

In all honesty the BCS does a pretty damn good job of giving us the 2 best teams over a 4 month stretch.

Shhhhh......

If you say that, the folks that are still outraged that OSU didn't get a shot will string you up.

I like the playoff format to a degree, but I don't like that there are 64 teams in it. Give me a 16 team tournament to decide the championship, maybe even a double-elimination tourny.

So you'll miss out on some upsets - so? With that short 3pt line, even the upsets have almost become cliche at this point. All the upsets really serve to do is make for shittier basketball once the Sweet 16 rolls around.

I'm a large conference snob; always have been. I don't care about mid-majors and I'm beyond tired of listening to Boise St fans bitch (though I think TCU had a legit gripe 3 years ago; that team was legit...though probably high). Championships really should be about figuring out who the best team all season was. The BCS does a far better job of figuring that out than the NCAA tournament does. I believe it's Wicklock that says CFB isn't a real sport because it doesn't have a playoff system, but CFB has been far more reliable in getting their champion right over the last 10-15 years than the MCBB has been.

O.city 02-17-2012 06:34 PM

Spot on DJ.


The BCS has the perfect system if they want a playoff. Take the top 8 and seed it out.

I also think that the CBB tourney has gotten too large. It really has to many shitty teams. Like you said, take the top 16.

Reaper16 02-17-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8380488)
I believe it's Wicklock that says CFB isn't a real sport because it doesn't have a playoff system, but CFB has been far more reliable in getting their champion right over the last 10-15 years than the MCBB has been.

Whitlock is a huge proponent of the BCS. He loves it.

petegz28 02-17-2012 09:58 PM

So I heard a little of KK yesterday and all the guy could do was piss on MU's parade with a few sprinkles of comments that made him sound like he wasn't. Seriously, WTF is this guy's issue with MU?

Al Bundy 02-17-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8380760)
So I heard a little of KK yesterday and all the guy could do was piss on MU's parade with a few sprinkles of comments that made him sound like he wasn't. Seriously, WTF is this guy's issue with MU?

My best bet is he along with a lot of the local journalists have to do more work.

stonedstooge 02-17-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8380760)
So I heard a little of KK yesterday and all the guy could do was piss on MU's parade with a few sprinkles of comments that made him sound like he wasn't. Seriously, WTF is this guy's issue with MU?

I've listened to him almost every day for the past 2 weeks. He has eased up some on his comments about Missouri, but his only praises are like backhanded slaps

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8380760)
So I heard a little of KK yesterday and all the guy could do was piss on MU's parade with a few sprinkles of comments that made him sound like he wasn't. Seriously, WTF is this guy's issue with MU?

He's really, really pissed off about Mizzou going to the SEC.

He had a mini rant about it today. "Nobody I talk to likes it, even Mizzou fans!! It's just STUPID!!"

DJ's left nut 02-17-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8380695)
Whitlock is a huge proponent of the BCS. He loves it.

Wicklock - Wickedson's Cochran-esque, rainmakin' lawyer alter-ego.

He's been invaluable these last couple of days; though I suppose we should go with Wickedlock in order to clear things up.

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8380779)
I've listened to him almost every day for the past 2 weeks. He has eased up some on his comments about Missouri, but his only praises are like backhanded slaps

This Mizzou basketball team has been playing so well he's had to grind his teeth and throw out a compliment or two. But yeah.

DJ's left nut 02-17-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8380779)
I've listened to him almost every day for the past 2 weeks. He has eased up some on his comments about Missouri, but his only praises are like backhanded slaps

2 days ago he honestly said "You know that I hate to say this, but I'd have to vote for Haith as coach of the year...." As though it was like having to put his dog to sleep or something.

It's the last time I'll ever listen to him. I switched to 610 and henceforth in this Kingdom I'll listen to Wright or nothing. He's just unabashadly anti-Mizzou at this point but he'll kick and scream if you call him on it. He doesn't even try to be objective about it now.

He got burned so badly by the B1G thing, then made look so foolish by his squawking over the SEC (he makes the Beakers look positively dignified) that he just can't stand to give Mizzou credit for anything.

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8380803)
2 days ago he honestly said "You know that I hate to say this, but I'd have to vote for Haith as coach of the year...." As though it was like having to put his dog to sleep or something.

It's the last time I'll ever listen to him. I switched to 610 and henceforth in this Kingdom I'll listen to Wright or nothing. He's just unabashadly anti-Mizzou at this point but he'll kick and scream if you call him on it. He doesn't even try to be objective about it now.

He got burned so badly by the B1G thing, then made look so foolish by his squawking over the SEC (he makes the Beakers look positively dignified) that he just can't stand to give Mizzou credit for anything.

Or just flat hang up on a caller that does.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-17-2012 10:52 PM

If you want to hear the definition of butt-hurt...list to KK talk about MU leaving.

Can't stand the guy. Then again, there aren't many KC sport radio host I can stand...

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8380810)
If you want to hear the definition of butt-hurt...list to KK talk about MU leaving.

Can't stand the guy. Then again, there aren't many KC sport radio host I can stand...

Agreed! :thumb:

DJ's left nut 02-17-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8380810)
If you want to hear the definition of butt-hurt...list to KK talk about MU leaving.

Can't stand the guy. Then again, there aren't many KC sport radio host I can stand...

I'm not sure what I'll do without The Racin' Boys...

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8380813)
I'm not sure what I'll do without The Racin' Boys...

Or Smoke n' Fire, or that golf guy, or whateverthe**** pizza...

The show is 50% adds, (not counting actual commercials) and the rest is is Keitzman displaying his wounded vagina.

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 11:03 PM

I actually kinda like SSJ and Petro.

kstater 02-17-2012 11:05 PM

BITB

Mr_Tomahawk 02-17-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380820)
I actually kinda like SSJ and Petro.

The morning show reminds me of a bunch of high school kids clowning around..."not okay".

Petro is fine. I just don't catch him as often as he is in the middle of the day.

KC_Connection 02-17-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8380488)
Shhhhh......

If you say that, the folks that are still outraged that OSU didn't get a shot will string you up.

I like the playoff format to a degree, but I don't like that there are 64 teams in it. Give me a 16 team tournament to decide the championship, maybe even a double-elimination tourny.

So you'll miss out on some upsets - so? With that short 3pt line, even the upsets have almost become cliche at this point. All the upsets really serve to do is make for shittier basketball once the Sweet 16 rolls around.

I'm a large conference snob; always have been. I don't care about mid-majors and I'm beyond tired of listening to Boise St fans bitch (though I think TCU had a legit gripe 3 years ago; that team was legit...though probably high). Championships really should be about figuring out who the best team all season was. The BCS does a far better job of figuring that out than the NCAA tournament does. I believe it's Wicklock that says CFB isn't a real sport because it doesn't have a playoff system, but CFB has been far more reliable in getting their champion right over the last 10-15 years than the MCBB has been.

Agreed on all counts. The tournament's current format is largely a luck-filled crapshoot (and a poor way of determing who the best team in the country is). Watch out, though, as I was criticized for expressing this same opinion in this thread a few days ago.

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8380824)
The morning show reminds me of a bunch of high school kids clowning around..

Works for me on the drive to work. It's a little silly yeah, but I like it... (other than Gary Lezak)

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8380824)
Petro is fine. I just don't catch him as often as he is in the middle of the day.

Lunch time. I like the two minute drill thing... a little from all around the country. I actually like the Gottlieb days too. He's not a popular guy with Mizzou fans. (Don't think he likes Mizzou very much in general) But he's candid in a way that very few guys in his position are. He and Petro give each other a lot of shit... it's entertaining.

DJ's left nut 02-17-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380820)
I actually kinda like SSJ and Petro.

KK may have actually cost SSJ a listener for their last hour.

I listened to Danny Perkins today when I got into the office because that's what my streaming audio player was on and I forgot to flip over. Honestly - he was pretty damn good.

The Border Patrol guys do a little too much clownin' in the mornings and don't seem to really add anything. If I'm in early, I'll listen to them because I can't stand that ****stain Fescoe; but I actually think I'll listen to Perkins when his show starts - he seems pretty good.

Other than Petro, there's not much to stay on 810 for anymore. And KK has really been the anchor that's bottomed that station out.

Dartgod 02-17-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380820)
I actually kinda like SSJ and Petro.

The Monday morning after the Baylor win, I was looking forward to some Mizzou talk on my drive in to work and instead was treated to 20-25 minutes of discussion about the Grammy's and Whitney Houston's death.

****ing pissed, was I.

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 11:46 PM

I hate that "make a T-shirt thing", but...

http://pacmail.em.marketinghq.net/co...toryheader.jpg

KcMizzou 02-17-2012 11:55 PM

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“They’ve beaten Kansas 92 times. You’ve won conference championships before. You’ve never been to the Final Four. This is not even a discussion. You are judged by what you do in March. No one knows that better than Kansas fans. You take the Final Four over beating Kansas anytime.”
Gabe DeArmond, when asked if Missouri would prefer to win in Lawrence and secure the Big 12 title or make their first Final Four

http://www.greghallkc.com/?p=1663

Amen. And how ****ing stupid is that question?

Dr. Gigglepants 02-18-2012 12:03 AM

TBP in the morning is ok. Petro is good, really good during baseball season. Wright in the afternoon. I actually caught the 3 hour lunch once this week, it was mentioned in the realignment thread. Pretty decent if you want a break from local sports. They were talking SEC basketball, which didn't interest me at all this week. Should be pretty good once CFB starts back up though.
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-King- 02-18-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8380832)
KK may have actually cost SSJ a listener for their last hour.

I listened to Danny Perkins today when I got into the office because that's what my streaming audio player was on and I forgot to flip over. Honestly - he was pretty damn good.

The Border Patrol guys do a little too much clownin' in the mornings and don't seem to really add anything. If I'm in early, I'll listen to them because I can't stand that ****stain Fescoe; but I actually think I'll listen to Perkins when his show starts - he seems pretty good.

Other than Petro, there's not much to stay on 810 for anymore. And KK has really been the anchor that's bottomed that station out.

Danny Parkins is a ****ing reerun. I remember a few weeks back him just bashing the hell out of the Chiefs for interviewing Philbin for the OC position and at the same time praising the Dolphins for talking about winning. Then he had nothing to say after the Dolphins hired Philbin for the HC job. Acted like he never even said it.

Al Bundy 02-18-2012 07:46 AM

I like Petro and the border patrol that's about it.

Nzoner 02-18-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380871)
Gabe DeArmond, when asked if Missouri would prefer to win in Lawrence and secure the Big 12 title or make their first Final Four

http://www.greghallkc.com/?p=1663

Amen. And how ****ing stupid is that question?

Met a guy at the bar last night who said I just want Mizzou to beat KU on the 25th and the season is good,of course I gave him a :spock:

When asked I let it fly in typical Nzoner fashion,you gotta be fockin' kidding me,to hell with win on the 25th and to hell with winning the Big 12,I'll gladly watch the team lose both if it means they get more focused and go on a serious FF run.

|Zach| 02-18-2012 08:32 AM

There is only talk of Kansas and sports talk radio in here. Probably two of the worst things in the whole world. Get your shit together Mizzou Basketball thread'ers.

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/gett...-138278135.jpg

Saul Good 02-18-2012 09:23 AM

I haven't listened to KK in months. I used to listen to him everyday. I carry an Arbitron meter, so he feels it in his ratings when I don't listen.

Dr. Gigglepants 02-18-2012 09:49 AM

What do you get for carrying that thing around all day?
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notorious 02-18-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380865)
I hate that "make a T-shirt thing", but...

http://pacmail.em.marketinghq.net/co...toryheader.jpg

JFC, I don't cheer for Mizzou or KU, but that T-Shirt is super gay.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8380865)
I hate that "make a T-shirt thing", but...

http://pacmail.em.marketinghq.net/co...toryheader.jpg

They sure took a lot of time and effort to design a t-shirt for one game....against a team they care nothing about. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 10:06 AM

Anyone else worried about today's game? A & M was supposed to compete for the league title but fell apart, but they get a couple of guys back from injury today.

We have three road games left, but one is TT. I know Lawerence is going to be incredibly tough. This game has me worried, I don't want the team pulling an OSU out of their hat at the wrong time. They have to be feeling some pressure, since they know KU is winning today against TT. Hopefully they can come out and hit some early shots and take the moxy out of A & M. How has attendance been down there? The less fans the better...have they had Oklahoma type crowds, or are they still selling out despite their bad season?

phisherman 02-18-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8381066)
They sure took a lot of time and effort to design a t-shirt for one game....against a team they care nothing about. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

that's the first thing that popped into my mind. you know, because mizzou fans are the obsessed ones and all..... :hmmm:

KcMizzou 02-18-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8381068)
Anyone else worried about today's game? A & M was supposed to compete for the league title but fell apart, but they get a couple of guys back from injury today.

We have three road games left, but one is TT. I know Lawerence is going to be incredibly tough. This game has me worried, I don't want the team pulling an OSU out of their hat at the wrong time. They have to be feeling some pressure, since they know KU is winning today against TT. Hopefully they can come out and hit some early shots and take the moxy out of A & M. How has attendance been down there? The less fans the better...have they had Oklahoma type crowds, or are they still selling out despite their bad season?

I'm always worried about every game.

Braincase 02-18-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8381062)
JFC, I don't cheer for Mizzou or KU, but that T-Shirt is super gay.

Yeah, because supporting the Wounded Warrior Project is just so...you can fill in the adjective.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8381300)
Yeah, because supporting the Wounded Warrior Project is just so...you can fill in the adjective.

Why don't they just make shirts that say "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" then? As long as the money goes to a good cause, it's not gay.

Braincase 02-18-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8381310)
Why don't they just make shirts that say "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" then? As long as the money goes to a good cause, it's not gay.

We couldn't find enough black and gold t-shirts for that one.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:08 PM

Missouri starts out slow again dammit

notorious 02-18-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8381300)
Yeah, because supporting the Wounded Warrior Project is just so...you can fill in the adjective.

:)



You know that's not even close to what I was talking about.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:18 PM

Dixon comes in and starts a run. Mizzou up 9-7

notorious 02-18-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 8381369)
We couldn't find enough black and gold t-shirts for that one.

Wow. ROFL.


I need to hang out in the Mizzou/KU hatred threads more often.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:18 PM

Moore active on the boards, grabbing some rebounds.Mizzou on a 7-0 run.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:24 PM

ESPN cut away for the Louisville game...hopefully they will not keep doing that. Mizzou seems to be heating up, need to keep up the rebounding and taking and hitting good shots.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:25 PM

Come on English...gotta hit those free throws.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:26 PM

Missouri is looking confident today. Hope it translates into points

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:27 PM

PLIP

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:28 PM

Moore aggressive in the paint, like how he is going after balls. Too bad the possession arrow favors A & M.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:32 PM

Missouri is just throwing the ball away over and over. Also, Matt Pressey sucks.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:32 PM

Let's get to the line now.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:33 PM

Our offense has no rhythm.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8381441)
Missouri is just throwing the ball away over and over. Also, Matt Pressey sucks.

Yeah. Nice bucket by Denmon though.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:34 PM

We've only taken 14 shots in 15 minutes.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:34 PM

Need to get Dixon back in

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:36 PM

Too much standing around on offense.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:36 PM

Ugh...great rebounding..but then they turn it over. Eight turnovers this half, they have to take care of the ball better.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:37 PM

Ratliff hit pretty hard there with no call.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:37 PM

What is this chuck and duck bullshit?

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:37 PM

Bad defense there.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-18-2012 01:37 PM

Call a TO Frank.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:38 PM

Nice job there, guys.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:39 PM

Matt Pressey having his typical good game

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:43 PM

Got a good basket by Moore right out of the time out, and then a rebound and a couple of free throws. Need to lockdown A & M for the last minute of the half.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:43 PM

Moore loves getting down and dirty on the floor

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:43 PM

Moore forces another jump ball...he is a ball hawk today so far.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:44 PM

Another great hustle play by Moore.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:44 PM

Lazy foul by Turner. Bad move.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:46 PM

Outstanding defense. Let's make a couple free throws and play 7 more seconds of D.

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:47 PM

English missing another FT....got to make those damnit!

mnchiefsguy 02-18-2012 01:47 PM

Mizzou on a 7-0 run.

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:48 PM

Smart foul.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:49 PM

Kind of a meh game for the Tigers so far. Hope Haith makes the necessary adjustments at halftime

Saul Good 02-18-2012 01:49 PM

Frank and the terrible horrible no good very bad D gave up 24 first half points. Even worse than last game when we gave up 20.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8381483)
Frank and the terrible horrible no good very bad D gave up 24 first half points. Even worse than last game when we gave up 20.

Keitzmann fodder for next week

O.city 02-18-2012 01:57 PM

Texas A&M is such an offensive juggernaut.


Shitty first half by both teams.

DJ's left nut 02-18-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8381483)
Frank and the terrible horrible no good very bad D gave up 24 first half points. Even worse than last game when we gave up 20.

Only committed 5 fouls and gave up 2 fts. Should've been at least 10 and 12. That wouldve helped the D a great deal.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 02:06 PM

Come on Mizzou. Put them away

Molitoth 02-18-2012 02:10 PM

Ya know, I was really high on Flip but lately his passing has been so lazy and terrible.

stonedstooge 02-18-2012 02:11 PM

Jesus, Mizzouri falling apart again. Need to start a run again


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