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Pitt Gorilla 12-26-2022 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16690051)
He’s becoming a pita for opposing QBs

The perfect CP post doesn't exis....

Dante84 12-27-2022 11:33 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every &#39;true&#39; pass rush from George Karlaftis from Sunday&#39;s win against the Seahawks. What do you predict GK&#39;s sack total to be come season&#39;s end? <a href="https://t.co/LODKdpMddl">pic.twitter.com/LODKdpMddl</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1607738193939513345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JPH83 12-27-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16690920)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every &#39;true&#39; pass rush from George Karlaftis from Sunday&#39;s win against the Seahawks. What do you predict GK&#39;s sack total to be come season&#39;s end? <a href="https://t.co/LODKdpMddl">pic.twitter.com/LODKdpMddl</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1607738193939513345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It doesn't look much like it there, but I read somewhere his pass rush win rate was something close to 20%. That would be VERY encouraging compared to previous weeks. He was up against 2 rookies who've been middling but Cross was a high pick so hard to be too critical.

MahomesIsTheMVP 12-28-2022 01:08 PM

He is trending up.

Kiimo 12-28-2022 01:33 PM

Watching Tribal get repeatedly owned in this thread is one of the great joys in life

RealSNR 01-01-2023 01:40 PM

So what lesson did we learn here, TW?

Maybe don’t be an entitled fan? Be patient?

RedinTexas 01-01-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesIsTheMVP (Post 16692528)
He is trending up.

Applies for this week too and it's only halftime.

Tribal Warfare 01-01-2023 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16699637)
So what lesson did we learn here, TW?

Maybe don’t be an entitled fan? Be patient?

Russell ran into Karlaftis in that sack, but that was a nice fumble recovery though

Chiefspants 01-01-2023 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16699661)
Russell ran into Karlaftis in that sack, but that was a nice fumbl recovery though

LMAO

tredadda 01-01-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16699661)
Russell ran into Karlaftis in that sack, but that was a nice fumble recovery though

A sack is a sack.

RedinTexas 01-01-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16699675)
A sack is a sack.

They all look the same in the box score

St. Patty's Fire 01-01-2023 02:28 PM

he’s starting to really settle in. probably the most noticeable player on our d line today

Chiefspants 01-01-2023 03:10 PM

The pressures that lead to incompletions don’t count because sacks are what matters.

But see the sacks don’t count either because-

TwistedChief 01-01-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16700870)
The pressures that lead to incompletions don’t count because sacks are what matters.

But see the sacks don’t count either because-

No one in NFL history has been held to a higher standard than Chiefs pass rushers.

Megatron96 01-01-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16699661)
Russell ran into Karlaftis in that sack, but that was a nice fumble recovery though

So, that sack doesn't count? Or is there a special column that those sacks go into?

Tribal Warfare 01-01-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16701006)
So, that sack doesn't count? Or is there a special column that those sacks go into?

LOL, we have multiple threads how "the passrush is ass". So yeah that's a Russell Wilson WTF play.

Megatron96 01-01-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16700870)
The pressures that lead to incompletions don’t count because sacks are what matters.

But see the sacks don’t count either because-

Well, there's coverage sacks; they don't count. Then there's sacks that happen when the Chiefs are up by more than a FG, those dont count either. Then there's the sacks where the QB runs into the defender; worthless as well.

The reality is that KC really only has 3 'real' sacks on the season. The entire rest of the league doesn't mess with those trash sacks; they all only have real sacks.

Megatron96 01-01-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16701019)
LOL, we have multiple threads how "the passrush is ass". So yeah that's a Russell Wilson WTF play.

Ah, the WTF column. Where can I find that one? Link?

ThyKingdomCome15 01-01-2023 03:36 PM

He's coming on. Looked good today.

tredadda 01-01-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16701029)
Ah, the WTF column. Where can I find that one? Link?

Give up. At this point he’s either trolling or being so obtuse that there is no convincing him that George is doing well and getting better.

Megatron96 01-01-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16701067)
Give up. At this point he’s either trolling or being so obtuse that there is no convincing him that George is doing well and getting better.

Oh, I'm not trying to convince him of anything. i like exposing stupid when I'm bored.

tredadda 01-01-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16701077)
Oh, I'm not trying to convince him of anything. i like exposing stupid when I'm bored.

Fair enough. On another note isn’t this like his fifth sack in six games?

Chiefspants 01-01-2023 03:42 PM

George > Suggs, Kpass, Ingram (aka our playoff starters over the last three seasons).

Can’t think that’s anything but a win considering the need we needed him to fill.

carcosa 01-01-2023 03:43 PM

He seems nice to me

Megatron96 01-01-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16701083)
Fair enough. On another note isn’t this like his fifth sack in six games?

Think you're right. George is gaining some confidence, which is nice to see.

RunKC 01-01-2023 03:45 PM

Rookie sack numbers of recent 1st rd picks that weren’t top 10 picks.

Joe Tryon-4 sacks
Keith Paye-4 sacks
Greg Rousseau-4 sacks
Jayson Oweh-5 sacks
Jaelsn Phillips-8.5 sacks
Jermaine Johnson-2.5 sacks

George Karlaftis-5.5 sacks

Not too bad all things considered

Rainbarrel 01-01-2023 03:46 PM

Furious George will be fisting George in a couple years!

Halfcan 01-01-2023 03:52 PM

George ran himself out of the play on the second Wilson TD run. Clark needs to teach him an inside spin move. Another strong game besides that play.

smithandrew051 01-01-2023 04:14 PM

With 17.5 sacks against the Raiders, George COULD break the single game and single season sack records in the same game.

You gotta belief harder tho!

BossChief 01-01-2023 04:47 PM

Just wait till this animal has a couple years in our strength and conditioning program and puts on 10-15 pounds of muscle.

George is already good, but he’s going to be a legit game wrecker as he develops.

Halfcan 01-01-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16701279)
Just wait till this animal has a couple years in our strength and conditioning program and puts on 10-15 pounds of muscle.

George is already good, but he’s going to be a legit game wrecker as he develops.

:clap:

Yep, he already has the motor for it.

Pitt Gorilla 01-01-2023 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16700901)
No one in NFL history has been held to a higher standard than Chiefs pass rushers.

:clap:

wutamess 01-01-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16701024)
Well, there's coverage sacks; they don't count. Then there's sacks that happen when the Chiefs are up by more than a FG, those dont count either. Then there's the sacks where the QB runs into the defender; worthless as well.

The reality is that KC really only has 3 'real' sacks on the season. The entire rest of the league doesn't mess with those trash sacks; they all only have real sacks.

Don't forget sacks we get while blitzing and/or db sacks.

Hammock Parties 01-01-2023 06:17 PM

total baller mack lee hill award winner

Easy 6 01-01-2023 06:19 PM

So yeah anyway, everyone can shut their big fat pie holes now

NJChiefsFan 01-01-2023 06:51 PM

I think a good generic measuring stick for someone, even if partially flawed, is "would you want more players like him on the team".

Iconic 01-01-2023 08:45 PM

Think he has the second most sacks of all the prominent rushers in this years class, right behind Hutchinson. Pretty good company to be in.

TwistedChief 01-01-2023 08:46 PM

He’s neck and neck with Frank Clark so must be doing something right.

ChiefsFanatic 01-01-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16701601)
total baller mack lee hill award winner

Man, McDuffie has been elite at his position at times.

Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk

smithandrew051 01-01-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16701988)
He’s neck and neck with Frank Clark so must be doing something right.

I hope he learns to set the edge like Clark though.

Someone was telling me that Frank Clark is an elite edge setter. I think it was DJLN.

Dunerdr 01-01-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16701989)
Man, McDuffie has been elite at his position at times.

Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk

I’m happy with George but got damn Trent looks good. And a lot of his best plays are stuff that don’t show up on a stat sheet.

Pablo 01-01-2023 09:00 PM

I like it when he sacks the qb

Easy 6 01-01-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16702022)
I like it when he sacks the qb

Or scares up a batted or hurried throw

The kid is legit, no doubts

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 01:12 PM

set the edge bitch

https://i.imgur.com/PU4JBy9.gif

Kiimo 01-02-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16701986)
Think he has the second most sacks of all the prominent rushers in this years class, right behind Hutchinson. Pretty good company to be in.

He also isn't a complete asshole like Thibs


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kayvan Thibodeaux doing the “go to sleep” celebration while Nick Foles is getting checked for injury <a href="https://t.co/8u28zGBj7n">pic.twitter.com/8u28zGBj7n</a></p>&mdash; Gifdsports (@gifdsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1609634323447021576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kayvon Thibodeaux snow angles next to a dead Nick Foles is messed up but really funny <a href="https://t.co/ZTYBzNq6os">pic.twitter.com/ZTYBzNq6os</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Skinner (@BobbySkinner_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1609629778667278336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tribal Warfare 01-02-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16701083)
Fair enough. On another note isn’t this like his fifth sack in six games?

And you also have said outside of Chtis Jones the Chiefs passrush has been awful, and Karlaftis is part of said awful passrush.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16703113)
He also isn't a complete asshole like Thibs


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kayvan Thibodeaux doing the “go to sleep” celebration while Nick Foles is getting checked for injury <a href="https://t.co/8u28zGBj7n">pic.twitter.com/8u28zGBj7n</a></p>&mdash; Gifdsports (@gifdsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1609634323447021576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kayvon Thibodeaux snow angles next to a dead Nick Foles is messed up but really funny <a href="https://t.co/ZTYBzNq6os">pic.twitter.com/ZTYBzNq6os</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Skinner (@BobbySkinner_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1609629778667278336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm laughing my ass off! That's funny as shit!

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16703658)
I'm laughing my ass off! That's funny as shit!

Would’ve been better if it was Brady

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2023 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16703660)
Would’ve been better if it was Brady

FACT!

Chiefspants 01-02-2023 05:57 PM

The Colts linemen are the most overhyped sissies in the NFL. That franchise is getting exactly what they deserve.

Halfcan 01-02-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16703658)
I'm laughing my ass off! That's funny as shit!

Was there a roughing the passer penalty? He came down with his full weight. Excessive celebration-On the field??

Easy 6 01-03-2023 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16703627)
And you also have said outside of Chtis Jones the Chiefs oassrush has been awful, and Karlaftis is part of said awful passrush.

He's a rookie with 5.5 sacks and a game to go, what the hell do you want?

InChiefsHeaven 01-03-2023 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16703788)
Was there a roughing the passer penalty? He came down with his full weight. Excessive celebration-On the field??

I dunno, but if I were the trainer that came on the field, I might have accidentally kicked that ****er and said "Move asshole!".

What a dumbass.

BleedingRed 01-03-2023 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16703627)
And you also have said outside of Chtis Jones the Chiefs oassrush has been awful, and Karlaftis is part of said awful passrush.

Besides consistency, we have 49 ****ing sacks on the year.

Tribal Warfare 01-03-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16705541)
He's a rookie with 5.5 sacks and a game to go, what the hell do you want?


Chris Jones being triple teamed, and everyone is complaining about the passrush he needs to better and it's not like George is in a horrible situation where everyone is gunning for him.Karlaftis had multiple chances to shut up the doubters with Chris Jones garnering the most attention from blockers. The Seattle game was good, but let's not make him out as Greek Baby Jesus. Mcduffie has been a badass, Karlaftis has been "hopes and dreams" comparing him to Justin Smith and Tamba Hali.




The Chiefs need help now, and with their Super Bowl window it's different for them not waste Mahomes' prime years.

PHOG 01-03-2023 09:22 AM

5 of the last 6 games.....sacks. :clap:

tredadda 01-03-2023 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16703627)
And you also have said outside of Chtis Jones the Chiefs oassrush has been awful, and Karlaftis is part of said awful passrush.

Overall it has been, but saying Karlaftis has improved as evidenced by his numbers and saying the pass rush outside of Jones is overall not good can be mutually exclusive.

tredadda 01-03-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16705674)
Chris Jones being triple teamed, and everyone is complaining about the passrush he needs to better and it's not like George is in a horrible situation where everyone is gunning for him.Karlaftis had multiple chances to shut up the doubters with Chris Jones garnering the most attention from blockers. The Seattle game was good, but let's not make him out as Greek Baby Jesus. Mcduffie has been a badass, Karlaftis has been "hopes and dreams" comparing him to Justin Smith and Tamba Hali.




The Chiefs need help now, and with their Super Bowl window it's different for them not waste Mahomes' prime years.

If Sam Williams put up the same numbers as George would you be this critical?

Pitt Gorilla 01-03-2023 01:20 PM

Honestly, I'm just glad he's a Chief.

Easy 6 01-03-2023 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16705674)
Chris Jones being triple teamed, and everyone is complaining about the passrush he needs to better and it's not like George is in a horrible situation where everyone is gunning for him.Karlaftis had multiple chances to shut up the doubters with Chris Jones garnering the most attention from blockers. The Seattle game was good, but let's not make him out as Greek Baby Jesus. Mcduffie has been a badass, Karlaftis has been "hopes and dreams" comparing him to Justin Smith and Tamba Hali.




The Chiefs need help now, and with their Super Bowl window it's different for them not waste Mahomes' prime years.

You're being a jackass, most people bitching about the rush are taking into account the fact that he's a ROOKIE and you can only expect so much from them... particularly D linemen

Dude has been rock solid, showing growth every step of the way... he's clearly a plus, not a minus

Chief3188 01-03-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16703627)
And you also have said outside of Chtis Jones the Chiefs oassrush has been awful, and Karlaftis is part of said awful passrush.

So funny story, I had accidentally clicked on an old post of mine from about 10 years ago and low and behold there you were with another great claim. You had stated that soon... very soon the NFL was going to be reducing games and there would be less teams due to consolidation.

Just thought I would share that for the people that don't know what a tragically dumb ****ing idiot you are. K thanks..byeee

Hammock Parties 01-03-2023 05:28 PM

right now it's looking like karlaftis is going to be a major force in the playoffs

New World Order 01-03-2023 05:32 PM

As Clayster said, this guy looks like he is missing a chromosome.

He's like the killer in Hatchet, or the weird looking guy in Goonies

Boxer_Chief 01-03-2023 07:05 PM

Dude puts on 10-15 pounds this off-season with the experience gained I think it sets him up for a good year next year. Plus I’m excited to see this streak continue into the playoffs. It’s basically been like adding a new talent the last 6 weeks of the season.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16707455)
As Clayster said, this guy looks like he is missing a chromosome.

He's like the killer in Hatchet, or the weird looking guy in Goonies

Playing against Clark, Jones and Karlaftis on the same line is going to be terrifying in the postseason.

Three stone-cold killers looking for blood, and Saunders trying to get paid on top of it. :evil:

Bump 01-03-2023 07:15 PM

this guy started off good, but wasn't getting the sack stats but was close and making other types of plays at least. He's evolving! I have really good feeling about our defense in the upcoming 2 seasons. It seems like we have a very high number of rookies starting or getting significant play time, the next 2 seasons expect most of them to take it to another level. This D could end up being dominant, especially while we still have Bolton and Gay and I do hope we keep Sneed but who knows what's gonna happen. There's a lot to be excited about though.

Halfcan 01-03-2023 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16707443)
right now it's looking like karlaftis is going to be a major force in the playoffs

:thumb:

I hope you are right!

BossChief 01-03-2023 10:15 PM

Once he tightens his arch and eliminates a half step in his speed rush, his sack totals with jump. He runs himself out of plays at times still and tightening that arch will help his pass rush finishing as well as his run defense.

He’s going to be a fun player to watch as he develops more brute strength moves and learns to utilize speed to power better.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2023 08:01 PM

baller

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis is heating up in getting to the quarterback, but these are the types of plays the Chiefs are going to need in the playoffs.<br><br>He pushes the RT back which causes the running back to divert his path, then disengages and makes the tackle after a short gain. <a href="https://t.co/ZR2JwUmFfW">pic.twitter.com/ZR2JwUmFfW</a></p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1610818479996940288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coochie liquor 01-04-2023 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16710314)
baller

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis is heating up in getting to the quarterback, but these are the types of plays the Chiefs are going to need in the playoffs.<br><br>He pushes the RT back which causes the running back to divert his path, then disengages and makes the tackle after a short gain. <a href="https://t.co/ZR2JwUmFfW">pic.twitter.com/ZR2JwUmFfW</a></p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1610818479996940288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damnit Karl :)

Pitt Gorilla 01-04-2023 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16710314)
baller

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis is heating up in getting to the quarterback, but these are the types of plays the Chiefs are going to need in the playoffs.<br><br>He pushes the RT back which causes the running back to divert his path, then disengages and makes the tackle after a short gain. <a href="https://t.co/ZR2JwUmFfW">pic.twitter.com/ZR2JwUmFfW</a></p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1610818479996940288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief Fans aren't sure how to evaluate that rep, given that it didn't result in a sack. :shrug:

Megatron96 01-04-2023 10:45 PM

George has been stacking some numbers, and he's looked better overall lately, but it's been awhile since KC has played against a really good team. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the playoffs, when all the teams are good. I'm hoping he has a good playoff run. We're probably going to need it.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-04-2023 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16707715)
Playing against Clark, Jones and Karlaftis on the same line is going to be terrifying in the postseason.

Three stone-cold killers looking for blood, and Saunders trying to get paid on top of it. :evil:

Dana is sneaky good rushing from the interior as well. Him and Frank have that stunt move down.

JPH83 01-05-2023 01:39 AM

The positives on Karlaftis are that he looks to have tightened up his tackling and reading of the run game, which frankly wasn't that good. He's also finally turning pressure into sacks. On the other hand, I don't think the improvements as a rusher are as pronounced as people are suggesting. Against Denver I thought his overall game was really solid, but he had one pressure on something like 24 pass rush snaps often against Billy Turner.

Is he improving? Sure, a little, certainly his tackling and finishing plays. Is he going to be very good? I still think so. But right now it's not any more than that.

JPH83 01-05-2023 01:44 AM

The positives on Karlaftis are that he looks to have tightened up his tackling and reading of the run game, which frankly wasn't that good. He's also finally turning pressure into sacks. On the other hand, I don't think the improvements as a rusher are as pronounced as people are suggesting. Against Denver I thought his overall game was really solid, but he had one pressure on something like 24 pass rush snaps often against Billy Turner.

Is he improving? Sure, a little, certainly his tackling and finishing plays. Is he going to be very good? I still think so. But right now it's not any more than that.

Hoover 01-05-2023 01:35 PM

The positives on Karlaftis are that he looks to have tightened up his tackling and reading of the run game, which frankly wasn't that good. He's also finally turning pressure into sacks. On the other hand, I don't think the improvements as a rusher are as pronounced as people are suggesting. Against Denver I thought his overall game was really solid, but he had one pressure on something like 24 pass rush snaps often against Billy Turner.

Is he improving? Sure, a little, certainly his tackling and finishing plays. Is he going to be very good? I still think so. But right now it's not any more than that.

BleedingRed 01-05-2023 01:38 PM

JJ Watt (NOT COMPARING PLAYERS) didn't really come on till late his Rookie season either. Lets hope he follows that trajectory

BossChief 01-05-2023 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16711831)
JJ Watt (NOT COMPARING PLAYERS) didn't really come on till late his Rookie season either. Lets hope he follows that trajectory

it’s kinda fun to see how they stack up to each other early in their respective careers.

JJ had 5.5 sacks, 30 hurries and 4 batted balls as a rookie on 776 snaps.
Karlaftis has 5.5 sacks, 33 hurries and 7 batted balls on 684 snaps and one game to go.


JJ had 3.5 sacks in the 2 playoff games he was in as a rookie…and then had 20.5 sacks in his second year.

Production wise, they match up well this early in their careers, so we can dream about that kind of explosion of production going forward, but without adding a difference making end across from him while keeping Chris Jones, that’s unlikely.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 11:32 PM

boss post

Easy 6 01-06-2023 05:36 AM

Eye popping numbers, indeed... anyone still disappointed with him?


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