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MeatRock 12-01-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MileHighFish (Post 10241068)
I believe he is the one swallowing the load tonight. I will sleep great while he and yourself drink your sorrows away, kick the dog, pass out and work on figuring out what has come of your lives...

I respect the Chiefs, their organization and vast majority of their fans. They have built a great team that only lacks a decent receiving corp. I do realize like all fan bases, there will always be those like yourself and I also know you will probably post an uneducated profanity laced reply, thus, I will Tebow for you tonight as well.

Take your Tebow prayer and shove it right up your AIDS infested asshole. There's your profanity laced reply dickhole.

GloryDayz 12-01-2013 07:41 PM

And I love hearing all the Chiefs saying they'll "watch it on film"!

JFC, do any of these ****wads watch film before a game? They really have to stop with this "we'll watch the film" shit, it's too late dumbass, you LOST!

These pussies just don't care! JFC they suck!

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-01-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10241204)
I was using an example. JFC I would expect you would be smart enough to catch on.

Cooper is the worst example you could give. You support him while having the worst three game stretch at DB of any player perhaps in Chiefs history, yet you want to pitch the Chiefs receivers in the fire and place the entirety of the loss on their shoulders?

There is no consistency in your points. That's a reason why you're a dumbass.

Oh, Cooper's performance over several games? Just a rookie. Avery's performance today and Fasono's drop? Reason why we lost.

If you had enough sense to be consistent in your views you'd realize that you should probably levy outrage at players depending upon how much they led to the loss.

Were Donnie Avery's drops more damaging than the 250 yards and three TDs that Cooper gave up?

How about you actually look at the play on the field and come to a conclusion from there.

FloridaMan88 12-01-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10241209)
Then perhaps Manning's receivers played an amazing game and Smith's played a subpar one, and perhaps there is a continuum on which we can evaluate performance that isn't worst ever or best ever with no middle ground?

Just maybe?

Who is saying that Alex Smith's performance was the "best ever"?

No one.

Did Alex Smith play well enough for the Chiefs to win today… yes

Was Alex Smith's play in the top 5 or even top 10 reasons for why the Chiefs lost today? No

Anyong Bluth 12-01-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10241096)
Fasano, Jenkins, and McCluster.

He got the short end of the stick. No one is denying that. What should be in doubt, but will never be, because Internet, is that there should be a degree of moderation in analyzing his play.

The narrative here is that Smith got ****ed as hard as you can get ****ed, and that's just not true at all. He was let down by his receivers, but he was not outright ****ed to the extent that some of the dipshits on here are claiming

I said it before: he played a nice game. He wasn't terrific, and he wasn't terrible.

Apparently, a degree of gray is no so offensive as to be apostasy.

You're being a bit contrarian and a little fast and loose with the notion that it was all Even Stephen on the # of drops to tough catches on badly thrown balls as if it's a zero sum everybody tied situation.

I like and agree with you almost in spade but on this its a bit myopic in view from realistic justification as if they're counterweighted on an equal scale.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-01-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10241259)
You're being a bit contrarian and a little fast and loose with the notion that it was all Even Stephen on the # of drops to tough catches on badly thrown balls as if it's a zero sum everybody tied situation.

I like and agree with you almost in spade but on this its a bit myopic in view from realistic justification as if they're counterweighted on an equal scale.

I didn't say that they were.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-01-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10241257)

Did Alex Smith play well enough for the Chiefs to win today… yes

Was Alex Smith's play in the top 5 or even top 10 reasons for why the Chiefs lost today? No

Did I ever say anything different?

GloryDayz 12-01-2013 07:48 PM

These locker room interviews make it all the worse. None of these guys seem the least bit concerned.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-01-2013 07:49 PM

Fred Williamson could have started in place of Cooper today and played better, the defense has no sacks, gives up 530+ yards, and the blame is placed at the feet of Donnie Avery. And here's the thing: Donnie Avery was terrible, but he was 8th hitter striking out three times bad.

Iowanian 12-01-2013 07:49 PM

This loss isn't on one player or a single position.

Andy Reid didn't throw the INT in the end zone on the first possession.
Andy Reid didn't drop multiple downfield passes that hit him in the hands.

Bob Sutton is a one trick pony who apparently can't compensate when his plan is getting pounded in the ass like it fell down in a prison shower. Bob Sutton didn't get torched, he didn't fail to beat the offensive lineman in front of him to put any pressure on the QB for the 5th week in a row.

The Chiefs had a chance but they shit the bed again.

There were a lot of moments to enjoy in this game, but right on schedule I came home to find my bad girlfriend blowing the Denver UPS man.

I hate Denver. I hope their fans all catch the common cold and I hope the team plane is infected with the ebola virus.

BlackHelicopters 12-01-2013 07:50 PM

Total apathy

Marcellus 12-01-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10241254)
Cooper is the worst example you could give. You support him while having the worst three game stretch at DB of any player perhaps in Chiefs history, yet you want to pitch the Chiefs receivers in the fire and place the entirety of the loss on their shoulders?

There is no consistency in your points. That's a reason why you're a dumbass.

Oh, Cooper's performance over several games? Just a rookie. Avery's performance today and Fasono's drop? Reason why we lost.

If you had enough sense to be consistent in your views you'd realize that you should probably levy outrage at players depending upon how much they led to the loss.

Were Donnie Avery's drops more damaging than the 250 yards and three TDs that Cooper gave up?

How about you actually look at the play on the field and come to a conclusion from there.

You assume I am only using Avery's drops as example and forget that game situation will determine importance of drops.

The original post that started this mess was that Smith played well enough to win, and then I mentioned drops on top of the stats and you started this shit.

Then you started agreeing Smith played well enough to win while arguing the costliness of the drops.

Who is arguing what here exactly?

dirk digler 12-01-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10241315)
Fred Williamson could have started in place of Cooper today and played better, the defense has no sacks, gives up 530+ yards, and the blame is placed at the feet of Donnie Avery. And here's the thing: Donnie Avery was terrible, but he was 8th hitter striking out three times bad.

Yep. I put alot of blame on Sutton for not coming up with a scheme to fix this defense.

Marcellus 12-01-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10241344)
Yep. I put alot of blame on Sutton for not coming up with a scheme to fix this defense.


This is a huge question going forward. Seems he hasn't adjusted recently.

notorious 12-01-2013 07:57 PM

Sutton raped against shit QB's with pretty good talent up front.


He is a pile of shit against offenses with any kind of QB worth a ****.


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