ChiefsPlanet - MU ** Official Mizzou Basketball Repository Thread **

This applies for every DI school in the U.S that sports both football and basketball.

Except one, which would be Louisville which gets more money from its basketball program than football.

Pants

01-04-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8262590)

This applies for every DI school in the U.S that sports both football and basketball.

That's what I just said. Thank you.

mnchiefsguy

01-04-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8262546)

It's not very hard to make the tournament. I think your definition of tradition is somewhat lacking. Maryland is not even in the top 50 in all time wins.

How many teams have made the tournament every year for the last ten years?

While winning is important to tradition, it is not the be all end all. Kansas City has a strong football tradition, but only one championship, and no playoff wins in 18 years.

|Zach|

01-04-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8262590)

This applies for every DI school in the U.S that sports both football and basketball.

Except one, which would be Louisville which gets more money from its basketball program than football.

When some of the money questions of NCAA sports were broken down L'Ville was a really interesting outlier in the whole thing.

Rams Fan

01-04-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8262593)

That's what I just said. Thank you.

I know. I just wanted to mention the interesting fact about Louisville.

Mr. Plow

01-04-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8262552)

He's right, though. Merely existing does not equal being a "football" school. I think the distinction is reeruned to begin with.

I would say Success is the determining factor.

Pants

01-04-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8262594)

Last 10 years = tradition. That's fine. Like I said, the term is very subjective. If you think Maryland has a basketball tradition, that's fine. That wasn't even the point of the argument.

Bearcat

01-04-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8262560)

Minnesota has a fine tradition in men's hockey...their attendance for that sport would be very competitive with any basketball arena. Five national titles, 10 or 12 frozen fours....completely rabid fanbase.

Hockey is a second tier sport in most of the country to be sure, but it is on the same tier, or even a tier above, basketball at many schools in the upper Midwest and Northeast. (Schools such a Minnesota, or Boston College in the NE. I gurantee you find more fans of hockey at those schools than BBall.)

Yeah, even Michigan, which is clearly a football school, has a lot of hockey tradition and will fill up their basketball arena from time to time.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8262560)

This whole argument over whether a school is a "football" school or a "basketball" school is just silly. Mizzou's attendance has been consistent enough to label it a "football school", despite the idiocy that comes out of Wikedson's mouth. Not sure why KU fans as so desperate to label Mizzou something else....why does it matter what Mizzou fans consider their school's primary focus to be?

Yes, it is ridiculous. As far 'why KU fans are so desperate', this is the first time I've really seen KU fans labeling MU a BB school... could just be trolling, but whatever. The 'secondary sport'/'football/basketball school' thing is just a reaction to KU winning the NC a few years ago, and it's been brought up more and more recently because of the conference realignment stuff... we never had these discussions before KU's NC, and you'll never see the 'secondary sport' thing discussed outside of CP.

Like you said, it's really up to the school and its fans, not a few outsiders on a pro football message board.

Pants

01-04-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8262612)

Yes, it is ridiculous. As far 'why KU fans are so desperate', this is the first time I've really seen a single KU fan by the name of Wickedson labeling MU a BB school... could just be trolling, but whatever. The 'secondary sport'/'football/basketball school' thing is just a reaction to KU winning the NC a few years ago, and it's been brought up more and more recently because of the conference realignment stuff... we never had these discussions before KU's NC, and you'll never see the 'secondary sport' thing discussed outside of CP.

Like you said, it's really up to the school and its fans, not a few outsiders on a pro football message board.

Slight FYP.

Mr. Plow

01-04-2012 12:57 PM

Isn't MU in the top 30-40 in all time basketball wins?

|Zach|

01-04-2012 12:57 PM

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mnchiefsguy

01-04-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8262604)

Last 10 years = tradition. That's fine. Like I said, the term is very subjective. If you think Maryland has a basketball tradition, that's fine. That wasn't even the point of the argument.

Okay..go back 20 years, or 30.....I know at one point in the 90's, NC was the only school in the country that had made the tournment more than 10 years in a row (their streak got up to 18 or 19 I think). I know KU is on a very long streak of making the tournament as well. These teams are the exception, not the rule. Making the tournament is not as easy as you make it seem, particularly nowdays with competitive conferences, and mid majors that seem to make strides closer every year to playing on equal footing with the big boys.

Just curious, how many years defines tradition for you? Because if you want to back 50 years+, then Mizzou has a fine football tradition. If you were to cut on the dark ages of Mizzou football (1980 or to the beginning of the Pinkel era), no one would be arguing about Mizzou's tradition. It is not the fault of the fans that it took Mizzou 20 years to find a coach to revive the program.

Bambi

01-04-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8262547)

Of course you think a lot of things...like college football isn't even a real sport. That is why people dismiss things you think as silly. Just a heads up.

Please, tell me how LSU not only having to play an extra neutral site game, but also already having beat the team they are playing for the national title should have to play this game coming up.

Please tell me how that is sport and not simply exhibition.

I'd love to hear it. From all that "dismiss" things I think. I'm all ears.

Spott

01-04-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8262572)

It really does. People rally around and create whole cultures around the sport of football. Even if the team is shitty. Football is more ingrained in the culture of most schools. There are examples where that balance is absolutely tipped like at Kansas and some of the schools listed below.

If a basketball program is historically great and the football program is nothing you have a basketball school.

If both the basketball and football teams are pretty great you have a football school. (Florida has won NC it both sports lately...ask a Gator if it is a basketball school and brace yourself for the giggling.)

A school that hasn't made its mark in either still makes football a much bigger focus.

I live right in the heart of Gator country and vast majority of them have no interest in basketball. Even when they won those 2 championships it never really drummed up that much interest here. I'm definitely in the minority here of the people that follow both sports, although I do enjoy football more.

Rams Fan

01-04-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8262630)

Isn't MU in the top 30-40 in all time basketball wins?

Yes.

Would you say Missouri St. has a basketball tradition since it is top 30 in wins?

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