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Deberg_1990 12-01-2011 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8158065)
IMO, Manning is more likely to retire before being traded.

It makes no sense for Indy to trade Manning and throw Luck into that shit hole they've dug in Indy. Besides, they've already said they have no problem paying both. Luck is only going to get 4-5mil a year.
Nobody knows that they are going to do, other than draft Luck if they have the #1 pick.

jd1020 12-01-2011 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8158076)
Nobody knows that they are going to do, other than draft Luck if they have the #1 pick.
Right. I'm just saying I think its more than a long shot that Manning doesn't end his career in Indy.

suds79 12-01-2011 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8158064)
I heard it as well. Ive got to believe Manning would make the Chiefs instant contenders for a season or two if hes completely healthy.

Manning, Charles, Berry, Moeki, Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster gives me wood.

More than likely have to give up a #1 for him though.
Would you do that though for pretty much a guarantee that we'll make the next... 3-4 playoffs? (And I assume some playoff wins. Who knows. Could be more.)

Think I would.... That's if we missed out on our QBs in the draft. But we have the personnel, assuming they come back healthy, to go far. We're as bad as we are simply because we have shit at QB.

jd1020 12-01-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158081)
Would you do that though for pretty much a guarantee that we'll make the next... 3-4 playoffs? (And I assume some playoff wins. Who knows. Could be more.)

Think I would.... That's if we missed out on our QBs in the draft. But we have the personnel, assuming they come back healthy, to go far. We're as bad as we are simply because we have shit at QB.
Just making the playoffs? No.

For 1 SB? Yes.

suds79 12-01-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 8158066)
And a crap load of cap space. We'd have to take on his contract IIRC. Would he be willing to restructure? :shrug:
Being the Chiefs are close to 30 mil under the cap I don't want to hear a thing about players being too expensive for a long, long time.

BoneKrusher 12-01-2011 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158081)
We're as bad as we are simply because we have shit at QB.
This^

suds79 12-01-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8158087)
Just making the playoffs? No.

For 1 SB? Yes.
Agreed. If we had Manning, I think you could all but guarantee some playoff wins.

Guarantee a SB? No. But have a decent shot at it? I'd say yes to that also.

It makes sense if we can't land our QB in the draft.

Deberg_1990 12-01-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158081)
Would you do that though for pretty much a guarantee that we'll make the next... 3-4 playoffs? (And I assume some playoff wins. Who knows. Could be more.)

Think I would.... That's if we missed out on our QBs in the draft. But we have the personnel, assuming they come back healthy, to go far. We're as bad as we are simply because we have shit at QB.
I think i probably would, if i was the GM and truly felt we were just a QB away.

At this point, i dont care how we win a Super Bowl, as long as we win one.

But only if i was 100% sure of Mannings health of course....

jd1020 12-01-2011 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158090)
Agreed. If we had Manning, I think you could all but guarantee some playoff wins.

Guarantee a SB? No. But have a decent shot at it? I'd say yes to that also.

It makes sense if we can't land our QB in the draft.
Manning would wind up on IR with BR, Lilja, and Weigmann still on the team.

suds79 12-01-2011 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8158092)
Manning would wind up on IR with BR, Lilja, and Weigmann still on the team.
:) Well I've been under the assumption that this will be the last year for all three of those guys.

Lets hope some replacements are better.

That's not as hard to fill as one might think. We're talking a RT (the most important position of the 3) and interior guys which shouldn't be that hard to replace in the draft.

BoneKrusher 12-01-2011 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158098)
:) Well I've been under the assumption that this will be the last year for all three of those guys.

Lets hope some replacements are better.

.
as an OLineman, i know Gaither was better than BR, he just got picked up by the Chargers.

jd1020 12-01-2011 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158098)
:) Well I've been under the assumption that this will be the last year for all three of those guys.

Lets hope some replacements are better.

That's not as hard to fill as one might think. We're talking a RT (the most important position of the 3) and interior guys which shouldn't be that hard to replace in the draft.
I have a feeling we'll see at least 1 of them for another year. I'm betting its Lilja.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-01-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158090)
Agreed. If we had Manning, I think you could all but guarantee some playoff wins.

Guarantee a SB? No. But have a decent shot at it? I'd say yes to that also.

It makes sense if we can't land our QB in the draft.
Some mother****ers always try to ice skate uphill.

suds79 12-01-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8158104)
I have a feeling we'll see at least 1 of them for another year. I'm betting its Lilja.
Yeah you're probably right.

But if we have Manning as our QB and this for an O-line

LT - Albert
LG - Lilja (or some replacement)
C - Hudson
RG - Asamoah
RT - Free agent or fairly highly drafted RT

Then I won't get bent out of shape about Lilja. Trust me we won't even notice. Peyton & Jamaal (oh I hope he hasn't lost his speed) will send several of those guys to the probowl.

jd1020 12-01-2011 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8158111)
Yeah you're probably right.

But if we have Manning as our QB and this for an O-line

LT - Albert
LG - Lilja (or some replacement)
C - Hudson
RG - Asamoah
RT - Free agent or fairly highly drafted RT

Then I won't get bent out of shape about Lilja. Trust me we won't even notice. Peyton & Jamaal (oh I hope he hasn't lost his speed) will send several of those guys to the probowl.
We could keep Hudson at guard, draft a RT, and sign Chris Myers.


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