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saphojunkie 08-24-2016 10:14 AM

You could put Hill in the slot as well, a la Randall Cobb.

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12383780)
You can put Streater outside with Maclin in the slot.

Just depends on how you utilize the slot WR.

If you're going to use him like Bobby Wade, Conley's stride length doesn't work because his routes just can't be precise enough (that would be Hill's forte). If you're going to use him like Victor Cruz, OTOH, you can get by with it.

It just depends on how you want to scheme. I don't think Conley works as a 'conventional' slot receiver, but there are ways to make him function well inside. I just don't think those ways jibe with how Reid likes to use the WCO.

milkman 08-24-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12383812)
Just depends on how you utilize the slot WR.

If you're going to use him like Bobby Wade, Conley's stride length doesn't work because his routes just can't be precise enough (that would be Hill's forte). If you're going to use him like Victor Cruz, OTOH, you can get by with it.

It just depends on how you want to scheme. I don't think Conley works as a 'conventional' slot receiver, but there are ways to make him function well inside. I just don't think those ways jibe with how Reid likes to use the WCO.

I think you should probably re-read my post.

Buns 08-24-2016 10:25 AM

Does anyone think Albert Wilson could be cut? Should he be cut?

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12383821)
I think you should probably re-read my post.

Man...how did I whiff there?

But no, I don't think you can put Maclin in the slot. He's way too critical as the Z in this offense.

Reid uses his Z as a 'do everything' route runner. It's pretty much the position that he builds his route concepts around.

I think that's a complete non-starter.

staylor26 08-24-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12383830)
Does anyone think Albert Wilson could be cut? Should he be cut?

No and No.

Simply Red 08-24-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12383834)
Man...how did I whiff there?

But no, I don't think you can put Maclin in the slot. He's way too critical as the Z in this offense.

Reid uses his Z as a 'do everything' route runner. It's pretty much the position that he builds his route concepts around.

I think that's a complete non-starter.

It's okay bud - you seem nice, you really do!

DaneMcCloud 08-24-2016 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12383830)
Does anyone think Albert Wilson could be cut? Should he be cut?

Cut? No. But as the season wears on, unless the lightbulb really comes on for him, I think he's the Chiefs 5th option at best.

Maclin, Conley, Streater, Hill, Wilson, Robinson, in that order.

Simply Red 08-24-2016 10:47 AM

I'll be honest - I saw CC play a ton of games in the NCAA - I would not be one bit surprised if Chris becomes a VERY special receiver, like even above where most of you think he hits his 'ceiling.' Plus I think he literally runs routes pretending to be in a Star Wars' battle, one in which he's some sort of Jedi warrior on the loose.

O.city 08-24-2016 10:51 AM

Iirc, they did use maclin in the slot some last year. They move guys around alot out there.

Im pretty pleasantly surprised with Conley this far. Looks better than I thought he would. Kuddos there.

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12383866)
Iirc, they did use maclin in the slot some last year. They move guys around alot out there.

Im pretty pleasantly surprised with Conley this far. Looks better than I thought he would. Kuddos there.

No doubt; they have packages where they move the Z inside.

But I think Milkman is suggesting that he's our primary slot receiver in the 3 wide sets; essentially saying that Maclin should be running as the Y.

That's a bad idea.

RealSNR 08-24-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12381570)
Thankfully Watt won't be playing against us


Whatever. Eric Fisher will just rip Watt's nutsack off if he does play

Simply Red 08-24-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12383928)
Whatever. Eric Fisher will just rip Watt's nutsack off if he does play

Fisher has 2 inches and 20 lbs on Watt!! I just looked, I like it!

CapsLockKey 08-24-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12383830)
Does anyone think Albert Wilson could be cut? Should he be cut?

Maybe. Yes. He's JAG at best who's been given plenty of chances to show something but hasn't delivered.

DJ's left nut 08-24-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12383939)
Fisher has 2 inches and 20 lbs on Watt!! I just looked, I like it!

That's always been the thing about Fisher.

That man is massive. And for his size, he's incredibly athletic. When his feet do the right thing, you can see how remarkably quick they are.

The dude has every physical tool needed to be, and I shit you not, the best LT in football. He's a physical goddamn freak.

But the odds of him getting there are beyond remote. The learning curve is just so steep for him. To get to that point, everything he does has to be completely second nature; he has to play without thinking. Even if he's healthy for another couple of seasons, he'd just barely be approaching that (if he progressed as needed).

He came out so raw that it was always going to take time to get him to merely playable. And it wasn't going to be until he reached that level that he could really start to work on becoming great.

Last season he hit the threshold level he needed to hit to actually start climbing the ranks. He can actually learn through what he's doing right now (instead of just reinforcing bad habits). It will be interesting to see if he can continue to progress mentally because physically he has every tool you could ask for.


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