Too much work.

I just know that Saphojunkie isn’t allowed to start the thread.

I’d guess:

1-Dotson
2-Agbaji
3-Grimes
4-D Lawson
5-Azubuike

Bench:
McCormack
Lightfoot
Garret
KJ Lawson
McBride
Braun

I would bet Moore transfers again. With the Adidas scandal ongoing, I doubt we land anymore recruits. At least, probably not any good ones.

I expect next years team to be a slightly better version of this year.

Call me crazy, I actually like Braun and McBride. I think Braun is sneaky and underrated, because well, he's a white Kansas kid who looks like a paperboy. McBride is a great shooter and scorer, but undersized.

I think both are going to be great players. We need to be making our living in the 50-20 recruiting rankings range. OAD players are extremely overrated in terms of collegiate value IMO. Zion is a once in a generational player, even if you get the #1 guy there is no guarantee. Wiggins was nice, but I'd take Frank Mason or Devonte Graham 4 years over Wiggins ANY day. Selby was a complete bomb and some services had him #1 as well.

I think they’re nice building blocks for the long haul. Most likely, they won’t make much of an impact to next year’s team.

I think you need a combination of the two. Pairing a 4 year Frank Mason with Josh Jackson was hard for most teams to match up with.

It would be really nice to see us land one of the top remaining recruits to make the instant impact next year. Then you also have Braun and McBride for the future.

Everyone simmer!!
Our long national nightmare is over!!
I knew I knew it, and I knew I'd kick myself for stupidity when it came to me. But to be fair, it WAS way in the background, and was an 'interpretation' with pep band instrumentation and a slightly different tempo. And of course they weren't exactly playing the rap line. And the announcer patter was the focus of the broadcast, . . . and all that shit.

But it dawned on me a bit ago. ;)

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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bu...ls-next-season

Rumor circulating that Self is leaving to coach the Bulls. Most likely it’s bullshit.

I doubt his style would translate to the NBA. I could see why he would want to be done dealing with the NCAA after the issues with Selby, Diallo, Preston, DeSousa, Adidas...

Eh, I don't know. Josh Jackson was one hell of a player. He was ****ing remarkable. Ben McLemore, Kelly Oubre, and Xavier Henry were really good players on really good teams. That's a pretty decent average. Even though we haven't landed a Carmello Anthony or a Zion Williamson, doesn't mean you don't recruit one and dones.

But you're right, we need to have a good core of 4 year players that are damned hungry.

The biggest question I have is why would the bulls go down this road again so soon after Fred Hoiberg flamed out so miraculously? Sounds like hog shit.

I'm no NBA guy, but I agree that Self's style probably doesn't translate.

If it did happen, I would hire Chris Beard unless for some miraculous reason we could get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens.

Brad Stevens.

So bill self is gone?

Doubtful, but that’s the rumor.

No idea how reliable that source is. My guess is not very reliable.

Why would Self go to the Bulls? They don't have Jack Shit on that roster.

Ready for the NBA! :)

That article also said Vick would still be returning and was written yesterday...

The Bulls are a trainwreck. Until GarPax is dealt with, it might be one of the worst sports franchises to coach in professional sports. Granted, Bill could sign a $35m contract which isn't anything to sneeze at, but still hard to swallow knowing you're gonna fail.

I would think there would be a better NBA option for him, unless he's jumping fast to get out ahead of the FBI stuff.

As an outsider if you guys didn't lose Azubuike, you're likely looking at 15 B12's in a row.


What Self has done at KU is nothing short of legendary, and I can't see who will ever break that record of 14 conference titles in a row in any of the Power 5 conferences, but all good things come to an end. But, just an amazing run, and the envy of every college BB team and fan out there.

# of men who have walked on the moon: 12
# of men who have coached KU basketball: 8

Yeah, going to the Bulls makes little sense. Organization is a mess, they have terrible management, and no real future. He'd be fired within a few years of going there like Hoiberg, so unless the money is that much better, it doesn't really add up. I'll believe it when I see it.

What idiot said this

(Mid major) is amazing at (something), which exploits Kansas' (weakness). They are the best (seed) ever and should have been a (+3 seed). Kansas was given no favors with this matchup, UPSET ALERT!

I'm already panicking. Thank you for stepping up and giving up this hard hitting advanced analysis!

I was wondering if maybe there was a connection there from his time at Illinois.

Best 13 seed of all time!

Hey man, NW Southern Baptist Community College put together an amazing conference tourney run and they're hitting threes at an amazing clip! Advanced analysis for you there.

What a gift KU gets considering how much they limped in to the finish


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NORTHEASTERN HUSKIES!!!!????

SHIT SHIT SHIT 79 IN KENPOM BUT THEYRE PLAYING MORE LIKE 7 OR 9.

Which teams played yesterday?

Thank you.

A well deserved 4 seed in the Midwest. Didn't they send the purple pussies to California or something?

Hey Chiefaroo, what seed did play angry get? Thanks.

Not to get ahead of ourselves here but Auburn has 5 straight games of double digit made 3's.

Auburn and New Mexico St both shoot a ton of threes..

Jay Bilas just now... "kansas might not get past northeastern"...lmao

They ****ing suck. We won't be tested until the second round. Great great first round match up. I actually like our path to the Sweet 16 - and at that point we get blown out. But hey - we are a #4 that is to expected.

Maybe we get lightening in a bottle in Kansas City and make Roy cry.

K-State has to play UC Irvine in San Jose.

hahahahha.

Crazier things have happened. I wouldn’t be shocked by a loss in any round.

I also wouldn’t be shocked by a Sweet 16 berth.

typical pussy insecure kstate fan. Always worried about KU

lol did they even make the NIT?

THIS! They have some really bad nights this year. Easily could have one the first two games and we are out. On the upside if we do get to KC and maybe Grimes is hitting the 3's at the Sprint center, crowd gets them going and we pull out a squeaker upset against Roy.

Most tourney appearances in a row.

1. KU 30
2. UNC 27 (1975-2003)
3. Dook 24
4. Mich State 22
5. Gonzaga 21

Say what you will about KU getting the Midwest, but the KC regional is a good ticket to have, with a chance to see Kentucky, North Carolina, and Kansas. That would be damn good for a Final Four.

Today's memory on facebook: "Holy crap." -3/18/12

A classic Self team, pulling a win out of their collective ass against Purdue... on their way to beating #1 seed UNC and reaching the NC game.

Those games surely shortened my lifespan, but I do miss the toughness.

It goes without saying, but this is a difficult draw. The Midwest regional location only matters if you get there and there's a less than 50/50 chance that Kansas does. To start, Northeastern is one of the most efficient shooting team in the country (5th in effective field goal percentage). More crucially for our purposes, they both take and make a ton of threes. 46.3% of their shot attempts come from behind the arc (22nd in the country) and they make them at a 38.8% clip (14th in the country). As some have been fond of pointing out, this KU team struggles to guard the three (not so much percentage wise but they allow teams to shoot 41.4% of their shots from there which is well below average). Northeastern also play a four guard lineup, which has proven to be the death of Self teams several times in the past and will likely require an adjustment in our own lineup (Dotson/Grimes/Agbaji/Garrett/Lawson). In sum, these guys are basically Villanova-lite and we will need them to miss a lot more shots than they generally make to survive even to Saturday.

Gotta be able to shoot 3's in the tournament.

KU can't hit 3's for shit...can't play perimeter defense worth a shit either.

In fact I'm not sure there's one thing that Kansas actually does "well".

This team is just horrific on the road.

It would be cool to see KU/UNC at Sprint Center...there's a very slim to no chance of that happening though, not w/ this team.

LMAO

Better than I thought.

Basically drew Villanova in the first round.

ROFL

...and prices reflect it - cheapest ticket on Tickets for Less is $400.

Thanks. You didn’t disappoint.

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Now watch Northeastern drop 15 threes and beat us by 10.

Yeah, well, don't forget about 3/18/2005. Garbage.

Nothing would shock me about this years squad. This could happen, or we could make a run past the S16 with just about as much probability.

Roy's pretty much been owned by Bill, so if we make it to KC, we can probably book the E8.

They shoot a lot of 3s, so it's possible.

But, that's true of a lot of teams these days... if Northeastern is "Villanova-lite", there are probably at least 10 Villanova-lites (and of course, Villanova), including Auburn and New Mexico State.

Snore. We are vs the following, per sagarin

1) Northeastern -11.5
2) Auburn +1
3) UNC + 6
4) Kent +2.5


Cumulatively that’s low odds to win all 4, but individually? Each is possible, not shocking at all.

These Auburn players are talented

FYP

ROFL

I might take Mason over a OAD Wiggins. But I would take OAD Embiid over Mason. If Embiid's health had held up a little longer KU could have won it all.

Did we lose yet?

Just Baffling. Embiid was good player in his one year of college, but he wasnt even as good as the best years of Aldrich, Simien, Withey, or Thomas Robinson.

Id take 4 years lf Frank Mason over virtually any 1 year player. Gives you the best chance at sustained excellence. Id take 4 years of Graham over Josh Jackson. No hesitation. I don't see how its even close.

Of course you can't pick and choose but the flop rate of a OAD recruit and the fact you get them for one year are all huge detriments. OADs are highly overrated for COLLEGIATE value akin to dinosaur baseball thinking in terms of only looking at batting avg and rbis.

Embid progressed throughout the year to be a majorly impactful player, better than most, if not all of those guys you mentioned. I would take him (when healthy) over just about every one of those. Look, I get your point about one and done players. And I, too, am sick of it. It's hit and miss and it really is making college hoops worse, IMO. But I think you forgot just how good Embid was. I would also take the KU Josh Jackson over Graham.

The streak was nice. I'm glad KU got the all-time record before it came to an end.

At this point, I'm less interested in sustained excellence and more interested in titles. There are not a lot of OAD players I would take over Mason. But Embiid I would. By the end of the year before he went down with injury, his rim protection was incredible.

Aldrich better than Embiid before he went down? I'm not sure I watched the same games you did.

Now if you want to factor in that Embiid was unavailable for the tourney, sure.

Ultimately, I think we can all agree that you need a mix of both OADs and 3-4 year players.

2017 is a great example.

Josh Jackson was a matchup nightmare and a Swiss Army knife of a player. Those guys don’t play 3-4 years in college.

Frank Mason was an incredibly competitive leader and a great 4 year player.

The two together created a team that was really tough to beat.

They got a #1 seed almost every year, the overall #1 seed a handful of times. That is all you can ask your team to do. I think many of you have clouded views of how good Embiid was due to him being likely the best NBA player coming from KU since Wilt Chamberlain. All that matters though is how good he was when he was HERE.

Quite frankly, last years Final Four team was probably the 6th best team, if that, from our 14 year conference title run. Just because they made the Final Four, doesn't make them better. It's hard to win a National Title, even if you are the best team.

I don't know what to think anymore. I just found out BWillie likes the female Ghostbusters movie.

Yeah it was pretty good. The only reason people dont like it is because of nostalgia. It wasn't what they grew up remembering Ghostbusters was like. It would be if they made Golden Girls but with men. People would naturally be pissed. But as a stand alone movie if you dont include nostalgic expectations it was good.

Why did it get 75% on RT if it was so bad?

Bwillie has the most bizarro socio-political takes here. But on sports he’s quite good.

If they had done a better job of casting Patty, it would have been a pretty good movie. As is, it was passable. Writing should have been better as well.

Is that 75% critic reviews or customer reviews? :hmmm:

ROFL

I still remember the thread Bwillie said he wished he wasn’t white. Man it was bizarre. People were like “dafuq?”

51% audience score.

Lol link?

i remember when i was said that he liked the women's ghostbusters film.

Wanted to wish KU and all its fans good luck in the tournament. Hope the Big XII has a great showing.

And to you. I like Tech and what they've done. I've got them in the Elite 8 on my Bracket!

Yeah man. Being white is a drag. You cant celebrate any heritage. You have no real culture. Your kinds past is littered with almost all negatives. I see no benefit at all of being white outside of being able to get out of a speeding ticket.

Asian. I would like to be Asian. Very unique culture & history.

not sure if serious... :hmmm: