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bigjosh 10-20-2018 09:43 AM

I’m going to swap the 305 out of my 87 Monte Carlo ss. I am still on the fence about what I want to do. Part of me wants to just LS swap it, but the fabricator in me wants to do something crazy like a 2jzgte or RB26Dett. The LS swap is super overdone, but that makes it a lot cheaper and easier too. Hmm

Marcellus 10-20-2018 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13829710)
I've got a 14 5.3 at the shop that absolutely grenaded. Probably the worst I've ever seen. Broke the block from head to head on the back 2 cylinders, broke both heads, blew the upper oil pan in two all the way to the balancer , broke the starter, broke the bellhousing and case on the transmission, broke 2 torque cover bolts, broke the ac compressor, ripped the wiring harness in two.

I've never seen anything like it.

A dealer in Minnesota claimed it was the afm that caused it, said the valves must have worked when they weren't supposed to and allowed fuel to get into those cylinders and it exploded.


Its direct injected:facepalm:

Sounds like it filled the cylinders with fuel and hydrostaticed. Thats what my motor did on 1 cylinder a few years ago, destroyed a piston, bent 3 rods and damaged one of the heads.

cooper barrett 10-20-2018 10:14 AM

Install the Range AFM Delete and forget about it.


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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13829710)
I've got a 14 5.3 at the shop that absolutely grenaded. Probably the worst I've ever seen. Broke the block from head to head on the back 2 cylinders, broke both heads, blew the upper oil pan in two all the way to the balancer , broke the starter, broke the bellhousing and case on the transmission, broke 2 torque cover bolts, broke the ac compressor, ripped the wiring harness in two.

I've never seen anything like it.

A dealer in Minnesota claimed it was the afm that caused it, said the valves must have worked when they weren't supposed to and allowed fuel to get into those cylinders and it exploded.


Its direct injected:facepalm:


SAUTO 10-20-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13829779)
Install the Range AFM Delete and forget about it.

No. They suck. I just turned it off in the tune

SAUTO 10-20-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13829769)
Sounds like it filled the cylinders with fuel and hydrostaticed. Thats what my motor did on 1 cylinder a few years ago, destroyed a piston, bent 3 rods and damaged one of the heads.

definitely could have.

My point was that the valves don't control the fuel delivery...lol

cooper barrett 10-20-2018 11:34 AM

I guess I need to expand my vocabulary. "hydrostaticed"

Doesn't reprogramming a customers PCM ECM ECU void the powertrain warranty?

SAUTO 10-20-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13829892)
I guess I need to expand my vocabulary. "hydrostaticed"

Doesn't reprogramming a customers PCM ECM ECU void the powertrain warranty?

What does that matter on a 150k vehicle? Why would I be putting an engine in a vehicle that was in under factory warranty?

And if it was you just turn it back on before taking to the dealer.

Marcellus 10-20-2018 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13829785)
definitely could have.

My point was that the valves don't control the fuel delivery...lol

Oh yea, I got that.

Marcellus 10-20-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13829892)
I guess I need to expand my vocabulary. "hydrostaticed"

I'm sure I am spinning my wheels here but....

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Hydrostatic means that energy transfer is brought about by fluid flow and pressure.
Fluid flow = Fuel entering cylinder
Pressure= Intake valve closes and piston raises.
Energy Transfer = Liquid does not compress therefore "boom"

SAUTO 10-20-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13829900)
Oh yea, I got that.

I figured you did. I was mainly just saying that to save cooper the trouble of googling it

cooper barrett 10-20-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13829907)
I'm sure I am spinning my wheels here but...."hydrostaticed"



Fluid flow = Fuel entering cylinder
Pressure= Intake valve closes and piston raises.
Energy Transfer = Liquid does not compress therefore "boom"



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SAUTO 10-20-2018 12:14 PM

Sadly last I checked no one had figured out how to crack the 8speed trans controller so I haven't been able to do my truck yet. Was hoping they figured it out by the time it hit 60k. We may be starting over soon though.

Up to almost 20k to repair it at this point and they still wouldn't total it

Marcellus 10-20-2018 01:52 PM

https://i.imgur.com/XuRWzPn.jpg

Went for a long drive today. Weather is nice and the car is running very nicely.

Need to find someone to machine the slots my aluminum hood hinges so I can slide the hood back about another 3/8", its bottomed out on the back of the hinge. Gap is driving me nuts.Thats why the gap on the front of the hood bar looks off on the corner.

hometeam 10-20-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13829921)
Sadly last I checked no one had figured out how to crack the 8speed trans controller so I haven't been able to do my truck yet. Was hoping they figured it out by the time it hit 60k. We may be starting over soon though.

Up to almost 20k to repair it at this point and they still wouldn't total it

I heard my guy talking about this the other day. somebody has it figured out and its like 5 grand to tune it~

lewdog 10-20-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13830012)
https://i.imgur.com/XuRWzPn.jpg

Went for a long drive today. Weather is nice and the car is running very nicely.

Need to find someone to machine the slots my aluminum hood hinges so I can slide the hood back about another 3/8", its bottomed out on the back of the hinge. Gap is driving me nuts.Thats why the gap on the front of the hood bar looks off on the corner.

I absolutely love your car. Great picture too.

Enjoy the ride man.


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