:facepalm:

Okay, my bad. I thought we could have traded him.

You really think holding on to Cassel and not shopping him early was smart?

It was obvious he would be released after we signed Smith.
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depends on how far down you move

Anyone demanding this, that or the other appears to be ignoring that staying at #1 is not an attractive option. If they end up picking there, prepared to be disappointed in the pick. Not only does moving down increase the options (most/all of which are more appealing IMO), they'd get at least solid value back (like a couple 2nds or whatever). It's just a no-brainer to take the best offer, unless they're so dead-set on a guy and don't feel he'll last, but they've said they're considering 8-10 players so they categorically should move back and for whatever they can get.

I'd take a 1st next year all by itself, but I'd hold out hope for a 2nd this year as well.

We absolutely must get a 2014 first to trade down.

Agreed.

For me right now it's "what would I take pick wise in exchange for Luke Joeckel."

Answer: I wouldn't be too picky in making a deal.

Right.

The future 1st would be the door that opens all my doors if I'm the GM, but nevertheless, I'll take a whole bunch of combination of picks over Luke Joeckel. People forget that these picks actually turn into players. We're not trading away RG3. Everyone in the league knows that.

Any 1st + any 2nd.

I just don't care anymore.

Losing that pick for Alex Smith has completely skewed my perception of draft value.

If we can just get a 2nd round pick back **** it.

Yep.

Everyone here saying "Ooh a first next year, and this year's second and a 2014 second!" is completely missing the point.

What would it take for me to trade down? The best offer. Period.

If Geno Smith is NOT getting picked at #1... I think they should accept close to anything realistic to trade down and get out of that position, no matter what it is.

Drafting Luke Joekel at #1 is beyond fucking rediculas.

Tavon Austin or Cordarelle Patterson + any player picked in the 2nd > Luke Jerkel

I voted for a 2nd. It really depends on how far down you're going though. If we were trading with Jacksonville and we had confidence that they weren't going to take our top guy, I'd take almost anything, even a 7th. If we were trading down to 10th, it would take considerably more than a 2nd.

I guess I'm saying that I'd take a 2nd to trade down to Phili's 4th pick or so.

Are there any players on the teams of prospective trade partners that may be useful? Eagles have Maclin, which I know they aren't trading, just using as an example.