Wow, I had no idea that he passed Morten Andersen for the #1 all-time scoring spot. I was about to say that he'll make it in three or four years, but given his longevity and the clutch kicks that he made to support cheating by the patriots, I think he's got a good shot of getting in on the first ballot.

They don't want to clean shit off of more kickers busts. **** kickers.

Nothing misquoted...You said he "COULD" make it. You also said that he "PROBABLY SHOULD" make it.

There's a difference.:shrug:

I have a better question. Why isn't Otis Taylor in the HOF?

I agree, if Vinateri isn't a first ballot HOF'er then Canton somewhat sets the tone for kickers moving forward. There isn't a better career kicking wise in regards to longevity and clutch moments on the biggest stage.

probably should is still a significant distance from would or will. He's not a lock, and I never said he was.

What I said was that all he really had to do was keep kicking at his average for the last six years and play for at least 14-16 years total, so 8-10 more years, and he probably should be in the conversation.

He doesn't have to improve in any particular area at all, just keep kicking at his current average, and statistically he'll be right there at the fence.

His only real problem, assuming he stays healthy and doesn't otherwise fall off a cliff somehow, is Justin Tucker. He's likely going to be outshined by Tucker for most of his career, and that might hurt his chances.

His numbers aren't sexy enough for modern voters.

Unless he was kicking at Arrowhead.