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milkman 03-20-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC
When all is said and done...I really believe we'll pick Carlos Rogers anyways... :thumb:

I think you are right.

CanadaKC 03-20-2005 07:21 PM

Kirwan makes some great points...
 
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8307849


Merriman 11th, Rogers 12th

CanadaKC 03-20-2005 07:23 PM

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11. Shawne Merriman, DE/LB, Maryland: With six of the top 13 teams either running the 3-4 defense or converting to it this season, Merriman looks like an answer to the OLB pass-rush issues. As one GM said, only two major colleges run the 3-4 defense, so it is always about conjecture when looking for 3-4 players. We know Merriman can do it and with a 4.67 time in the 40-yard dash, an incredible 40-inch vertical jump and weighs in at 274 pounds. He is definitely in the top 16.
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12. Carlos RogersCBAuburnRogers is gaining momentum in this draft process and he has all the measurables. As one defensive back coach said"Any corner over six feet tall who can run the short shuttle in the 3.8 range is exactly what I'm looking for." The fear with big corners is they can't open their hips and change direction. Rogers can do it. 


milkman 03-20-2005 07:40 PM

So, if we stand still at 15, then between Merriman and Rogers, I'd take Rogers.

And I'm betting that's the player the Chiefs are zeroing in on.

milkman 03-20-2005 07:42 PM

Oh, and damn you Cannada, you screwed up the page! :cuss: :)

CanadaKC 03-20-2005 07:45 PM

how the hell did I do that? :cuss:

milkman 03-20-2005 07:52 PM

Don't ask me.
I only know how to bitch about it. :mad: :p

FRCDFED 03-20-2005 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC
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Just say no to Tweeners like Merriman 

this goes straight to the argument...draft the best player available vs. what we need. Merriman is rated among the top 12 in the draft...

Exactly!! If we would've drafted a LB like Henderson or Pierce last season then maybe we would'nt be having these problems now.

So by taking Siavii and K. Wilson last season was CP drafting for position or need?

It boils down to do you take the 4th best CB or the 2nd best LB? Well, if the 4th best CB is still better than the 2nd best LB then the answer is YES!! Because he would be the BAP.

The answer to whether or not I would take one of the top QB's if he were available at 15 is also YES! Don't kid yourselves by thinking Trent Green is going to be around much longer. Also don't kid yourselves that our offense is limited on stretching the defense with Trent at the helm. Remember a couple of seasons ago when he threw all those int's because Kennison kept outrunning the deep throws? The following season AS changed to offense to hide Trents weeknesses. It is not a secret that Trent does not have the arm strength to stretch the defense. He is very efficient in the current offensive scheme which fits him well.

The best way to make up for a lack of arm strength at the QB position is to have a WR that can run well "after the catch." So YES, I would take a WR if he is the BAP!!

CoMoChief 03-21-2005 02:22 AM

Derrick Johnson is by far the best def player in the draft. He stands out the most and has incredible physical ability.

Gaz 03-21-2005 08:24 AM

A brief [well, as brief as any Gaz post] analysis...
 

A lot depends on what happens in FA:
• Do we get a veteran OLB?
• Does Hartwell take the offer on the table?
• Do we get a veteran CB to pair with Surtain?

_OFFENSE:
We should not draft RB, QB, TE, OG or C in the 1st Round.

WR is often mentioned. However, we have a lot of young WRs on the roster, so I would not go WR, even after Morton is released. Not a viable option, IMO.

FB. We actually could use a FB, since Richardson is getting up there and Easy has been a disappointment. Besides, the Planet implosion would be fun to watch. A viable option, but an unpopular one, given our dismal D.

_DEFENSE:
We should not draft DT or S in the 1st Round. We are stocked at those positions.

DE. I would like to have an upgrade over Hicks, but he appears to be bulletproof. We already have a good pass-rusher in Allen. Any draft DE would only take time away from Allen. I do not see the value there, although my crusty old Defense Homer wants a CB-Crusher. If there is a sudden end to the Hicks love, this would be viable, but at the moment it is not. Sorry.

OLB. Definitely worth a look. No, we are not going to get Johnson, but we need more meat at the OLB position. I think we really need to obtain a solid OLB via FA. Even after that happens, we need more OLB help. We can hope that Fox or Caver grow into a job or we can draft for the position. A viable option in the 1st Round.

MLB. Bell was a great pick-up, but we are thin behind him. We have to hope than Mitchell can learn the position behind Bell. Mitchell has the athletic bits, but appears to be missing some of the gray bits. This would be drafting for depth, which renders it unviable this season, IMO.

CB. I am assuming that we will eventually trade a pick [or picks] for Surtain, probably right before the draft. That gives us [2] starters and Sapp at the nickel. Risky, to say the least. If we do not pick up a second-tier CB in FA, the 1st Rounder has to go for a CB.

So, I must disagree with the “any position” approach. FB [heh], OLB and CB are the viable candidates. As much as I would like to add DE, I just do not see Hicks falling out of favor.

xoxo~
Gaz
Still enjoying the image of the Planet after a FB pick at #15.

Coogs 03-21-2005 09:01 AM

Gaz,

What if that "safety" is the best OLB available, which may be the case with Thomas Davis?

Gaz 03-21-2005 09:05 AM

Coogs-
 

No more tweeners, says I.

xoxo~
Gaz
Tweened to the gills.

Coogs 03-21-2005 09:12 AM

Not sure he is a "tweener". He is more of a football player who can play 2 spots very well.

Gaz 03-21-2005 09:15 AM

Gimme a full-time OLB...
 

I want a guy who has played the position for years and has developed the instincts for the position. I do not think that is possible when you switch-hit.

JMO, of course.

xoxo~
Gaz
Picky.

Chiefnj 03-21-2005 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
Not sure he is a "tweener". He is more of a football player who can play 2 spots very well.


Merriman is a tweener similar to how Suggs was a tweener a few years ago. That's the type of tweener to sign. Probably a better fit for a 3-4, but he has the makings of being a really good player. He'll be off the board by 20.


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