Has anybody heard suggestions about what these guys want? I'd be surprised if Trotter signed anywhere for 2 years. Happy if it was in KC, but surprised nonetheless.

Yes, indeed. The Pierce contract is done, so offer Hartwell a little bit more so that he can say he was the highest paid. Shouldn't be that difficult.

No, 2003 was the first time KC had been in the playoffs in what, six seasons? Last year was the best opportunity to patch the D and take the next step. Instead, we did shit and ended up in a familiar place: out of the playoffs.

Of course, our schedule was tougher last year :rolleyes:
It's all about the schedule, you know?

Yeah, it does matter. Sure the offense is going to look different in a few years. Does that automatically mean it's going to be worse? No.

If that's what it takes to fix a house that's missing half it's windows and roof? Yes.

No kidding, it's obvious that is what he wants. The longer we wait the higher the chances are that some knucklehead team will sign Bell to a huge contract just to get a big name player, therefore driving up the price for Hartwell even more. Let's get him signed today!

Actually, I have some inside info that 2003 was the year which is why they made the push in FA. Didnt turn out to fix the problem, and KC's doing the same thing this year, so I imagine it's yet another push.

Last offseason, Lamar didnt open up the checkbook...cant do much when the many says no.

You guys must be up to your eyeballs in debt.

I'm sorry, I don't subscribe to the "This is our last chance" crap. From what I hear around here, if Carl and Vermiel leave after this season, we should automatically be more successful.

That's our point.

There IS hope, but the Chiefs have to get agressive in FA this year and, to some extent, mortgage the future.

Carl has tried the "prudent" approach to FA for 16 years. For the most part, he hasn't mortgaged the future (1998 might be the exception)What has it gotten KC? A loss in the AFC Championship game?

I want to see the Chiefs get a ring so badly, I would endure a 3-13 or 4-12 season 2 years from now if that's what it takes.

This city and its fans DESERVE this. Its time to bring another Lombardi Trophy to KC.

Getting agressive to FA is (in my opinion) the ONLY way to get this defense up to snuff in order to win a Championship.

That's a dick vermeil excuse. Dick and Carl are the perfect combination for failure, one makes an excuse the other doesn't back it up.

that's why KC had 20m in dead cap money going into the 2001 season...

Nice, now you're trotting out the "we have no money" excuse. That one's my second favorite behind the "the schedule was tougher this year"

Where can I find a live stream on the net for KC radio? Is 810 the station to listen to?

I didnt 'trot' it out, Carl said it as well as DV...since I dont know or have access to their financial statements I have to take their word for it. Feel free to believe what you want.

[interrupting the regular scheduled broadcast of "Do the Chiefs Care About the Fans"]
So I guess there hasn't actually been a report about Trotter having problems with the physical?