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chagrin 08-05-2005 09:52 AM
My FF team, the South Side Honkey Lords will now be terminated.


I am wonedering why Warrior would be offensive and my college Alma Mater name, the Demons is perfectly fine...?

Chest Rockwell 08-05-2005 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Monkeys hate violence.

That's why it's much better to euthanize them and dump them illegally in a ditch.
Oh yeah. I was thinking of those flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz. My bad.

Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?

ptlyon 08-05-2005 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell
Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?
Baby steps to domination

ROYC75 08-05-2005 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Uatu
Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'.

I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.

Good thing Warpaint died then .............. :rolleyes:

htismaqe 08-05-2005 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell
Oh yeah. I was thinking of those flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz. My bad.

Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?
Hit em where it hurts.

Postseason = big money. It's the surest way to get "compliance".

Chest Rockwell 08-05-2005 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon
Baby steps to domination
Ahhhh...sneaking up on it eh?

BTW, your location offends the Sioux. I think it might be illegal to be from there during the post season. I'd start looking for vacation property.

:)

ptlyon 08-05-2005 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell
BTW, your location offends the Sioux. I think it might be illegal to be from there during the post season. I'd start looking for vacation property.

:)
Then I'll just have to move. There is postseason for any particular sport during all parts of the year!

cadmonkey 08-05-2005 10:03 AM
Pretty ironic that this decision is coming out of INDIANapolis.

Garcia Bronco 08-05-2005 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon
The Fightin Whities, of course
the thing that made me laugh about that was white people instead of being offended were like..."Hell yeah...where can I get a t-shirt?" Bitchy ethnic people could learn a lesson from that IMO.

Swanman 08-05-2005 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Even the Seminole tribe said they were HONORED by having Florida State use their name. Good job, NCAA.

Good thing though is the school can keep their names if they want, just can't use it on their uni's in tournaments.
They did the same exact thing with the Illiniwek tribe a number of years ago concering Chief Illiniwek and they also said they were honored and felt the Chief/name Fighting Illini was in no way offensive.

The problem is you've got other minority groups and stupid white hippies with nothing better to do protesting anything they can think of. For those that have seen PCU, those people are "causeheads".

Rain Man 08-05-2005 10:12 AM
Since I'm putting minority stats up in the DC forum, I thought I'd add this here:

Counties in the U.S. that are more than 50% Native American or Alaska Native

Code:

Geography        Percent Native American
Shannon County, South Dakota        93.68%
Wade Hampton Census Area, Alaska        91.70%
Todd County, South Dakota        82.62%
Northwest Arctic Borough, Alaska        82.05%
Bethel Census Area, Alaska        81.36%
Menominee County, Wisconsin        81.13%
Sioux County, North Dakota        80.12%
Buffalo County, South Dakota        79.13%
Apache County, Arizona        76.89%
McKinley County, New Mexico        74.51%
Nome Census Area, Alaska        74.38%
Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska        73.07%
Dewey County, South Dakota        71.95%
Ziebach County, South Dakota        71.50%
Rolette County, North Dakota        71.01%
Yukon-Koyukuk Census Area, Alaska        70.63%
Dillingham Census Area, Alaska        69.59%
North Slope Borough, Alaska        68.54%
Corson County, South Dakota        60.03%
Big Horn County, Montana        59.73%
Glacier County, Montana        59.33%
San Juan County, Utah        56.59%
Roosevelt County, Montana        54.96%
Bennett County, South Dakota        51.82%
Mellette County, South Dakota        51.75%
Thurston County, Nebraska        50.22%
I'm not sure of the usefulness of this, other than the general dissemination of knowledge.

Bearcat 08-05-2005 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Hit em where it hurts.

Postseason = big money. It's the surest way to get "compliance".
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...the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools...

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.
Yep... they just found a loophole. They don't have the authority to ban them fulltime, so they found a way to tell schools to change their name while still following the rules.


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"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.
I wonder what the actual rules are in regards to school colors/logos now.... Can FSU come out in all white jerseys and shorts now?

The cost of changing your name is probably much higher than making postseason jerseys for the teams and band..... in the short & fairly long run anyway...

Sam 08-05-2005 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?
NOTHING! No changes. CHIEFS baby!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images...36310451703773

Uatu 08-05-2005 10:47 AM
I think KU should change its mascot, since its depiction is demeaning of homosexual barnyard fowl.

Mile High Mania 08-05-2005 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Uatu
Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'.

I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.
Yeah, I've read that on the board previously, but I bet 50% or less of those that claim to be KC fans know that one.

The perception is everything you said... logo, stadium name, the chant, etc.


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