and the next question is "do we trust L'Equipe to make a correct match and give the correct results" ?


and that question just starts the whole thing .. it doesn't even address the whole validity of a frozen sample with no comparison sample.


i don't know lance armstrong personally and can't vouch for his methods but i do know that the biking world has been very "energetic" in their testing attitude about Armstrong and he hasn't ever tested positive in the past.

if this old/frozen/partial/semi-anonomous test is the best they can do then i would doubt the whole issue.

What was the name of the French sports congress? Le Nauzzelles du Douche?

On the surface, this is just toooo damn easy to tear apart - we're doing it right here on the Planet.

Wait till Armstrong's, Nike's, Trek's, Oakley's, Discovery Channel's, US Postal's, ect. ect. ect. lawyers dive into this. These people have too much invested in this to let the French bitches get away with it. And I can't even imagine it will be hard for them to do.

I'm curious - does anybody know how long after Lance's cancer treatment that he won the 99 race? It's interesting, because EPO is sometimes used as a drug in cancer therapy because a patient becomes anemic either from the cancer itself or from the treatment process. So, in theory, it's not unreasonable to think that Armstrong may have had medical need for EPO (the banned "doping agent" he supposedly tested positive for). Just not sure how long after his treatment was finished that this urine test would have happened.

Having said that, the French are just bitter and angry and I don't generally believe a frickin word they say.....

He was diagnosed in Oct of 96 and I think clean in about 18 months later. I thought of your exact thoughts on EPO being used for cancer but I doubt it in this case.

Based on the article in USAtoday not only is the test called into question is seems the test is not valid without the "A" sample, which doesn't exist. Thus, even if Lance cheated they can't prove it or do anything about it.

USAToday Article

In everyway it looks to be a witch hunt by a French tabloid to tarnish the American.

They're just pissed because an American ruled their country for 7 years and the only reason they got it back was because he decided to leave. They desperately want to invalidate at least one win so that he doesn't hold a record that is likely to go unbroken for decades.

Here's Lance's play if I'm his advisor. Call a press conference for when the Frenchies are just about to begin their after work news cycle (2pm their time?) and say this:

Lance: "Listen up frogs. You either drop this and leave me alone or I'm coming back next year. And the year after that. I'm going to be kicking your ass into my 50's. Now, sit down, grab some croisants, and shut the f**k up before I have send my girlfriend over to bitch slap your sorry ass."

You guys are missing a VERY BIG POINT!! Lqueer magazine is in the business of selling their product to the ignorant masses to make a profit. By posting these ridiculous unfounded claims they can take advantage of the lingering hate the frenchies have for LA-thus pushing their usual sales through the roof. Then they can keep making counter claims and milk the story until it finally goes away or LA sues them. If LA sues them 1. They have allready made their money anyway. 2. They have a whole new story to defraud the guy.

I really wish he would train and kick their asses again. Then what? LA is an alien from Mars giving him an unfair advantage.

Well, not without a long stick and a white flag.

Just like the Frogs: lose, then beg for $#it and blame everyone other than themselves.

PARIS, France -- Lance Armstrong's record setting seventh Tour de France victory, along with his entire Tour de France legacy, may be tarnished by what could turn out to be one of the greatest sports scandals of all time.

Armstrong is being quizzed by French police after three banned substances were found in his South France hotel room while on vacation after winning the 2005 Tour de France.

The three substances found were toothpaste, deodorant, and soap which have been banned by French authorities for over 75 years.

Armstrong's girlfriend, American rocker Sheryl Crowe, is quoted as saying "We use them every day in America, so we naturally thought they'd be ok throughout Europe."

Along with these three banned substances, French authorities also physically searched Armstrong and found several other interesting items that they had never seen before, including a backbone and a testicle.


credit to a poster on the coalition site

First of all, that is one of the two to three funniest things I've read all year!

Second, try becoming a competitive athlete after having any form of cancer...ANY form, let alone testicular cancer.

Third, I don't believe it's true...not by a long shot. However, even if it was, what pathetic excuse with the Frenchies come up with to explain his success since 2001? He has been tested constantly throughout his career and has NEVER failed a drug test. Doesn't it seem much more likely that the pathetic Frenchies are doing everything in their power to discredit an American after the fact, including doctoring evidence, just so they can retain some sense of national pride after getting worked seven times by Armstrong?

This is all such incredible bull$hit.

Leave Lance and Sheryl alone so they can get busy having a happy, healthy life together!

Lance Armstong...true American hero!