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Hammock Parties 04-21-2006 01:53 PM

Kiwanuka is a guy that needs the benefits of an NFL program desperately. Namely, weight training and professional coaching. He wouldn't do well here, because we have shitty defensive tackles.

I really wish the Chiefs were doing everything in their power to trade up and get Haloti Ngata. He's going to be one of the most dominant DT's in years.

As far as CB, if it's someone on the roster, I'd like to see Alphonso Hodge step up.

Tribal Warfare 04-21-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
He really is a true tweener, at this point. A lot of folks are stoked about Lawson, because of DeWare and Merriman from last year....

I don't think he's in the same class, personally.

Ware was a work out warrior from a small school college. I believe Lawson could be like Jevon Kearse type that will pucker offensive co-ordinators assholes.

Coogs 04-21-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
He really is a true tweener, at this point. A lot of folks are stoked about Lawson, because of DeWare and Merriman from last year....

I don't think he's in the same class, personally.

I'm stoked about Lawson because I saw him play three or four games and the Senior Bowl. The guy reminds me of Dwight Freeney comming off the edge. And when Freeney came out of college, I was pimping him big time for the Chiefs. We passed and actually traded up to get Sims. If Lawson is still there at #20, I hope we don't pass again this year.

I'm willing to sacrifice a few rushing yards a game for the chance at game changing plays these type of guys can make. Our best defensed were when DT had this same type of role comming off of the edge.

CupidStunt 04-21-2006 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Manny Lawsons 6'6 and weighs 240......so has a combination like that too. I see alot of people around here like him.........

But Lawson projects to a 3-4 OLB role because he has a rare blend of speed and overall athleticism to go with that great OLB-type size.

Kiwi can't handle that type of poisiton because he's not quick enough laterally or explosive enough up the field, and of course, there are questions about him as a 4-3 DE because of his lanky frame, slow first step and lack of pass-rush moves.

And to the guy who said Rod Wright was a dominant college DT - ROFL .

Wright was a big, fat, underachiever. That's the problem. He has some appreciable tools, but he never parlayed that to production on the field.

Tribal Warfare 04-21-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
If Lawson is still there at #20, I hope we don't pass again this year.

I wouldn't worry about it Herm and company has a mancrush on Lawson .

htismaqe 04-21-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Kiwanuka is a guy that needs the benefits of an NFL program desperately. Namely, weight training and professional coaching. He wouldn't do well here, because we have shitty defensive tackles.

I really wish the Chiefs were doing everything in their power to trade up and get Haloti Ngata. He's going to be one of the most dominant DT's in years.

As far as CB, if it's someone on the roster, I'd like to see Alphonso Hodge step up.

The problem is that, while Kiwi has the frame to add weight, adding weight would actually neutralize the ONE skill he does have - straight-line speed...

htismaqe 04-21-2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King
But Lawson projects to a 3-4 OLB role because he has a rare blend of speed and overall athleticism to go with that great OLB-type size.

Kiwi can't handle that type of poisiton because he's not quick enough laterally or explosive enough up the field, and of course, there are questions about him as a 4-3 DE because of his lanky frame, slow first step and lack of pass-rush moves.

And to the guy who said Rod Wright was a dominant college DT - ROFL .

Wright was a big, fat, underachiever. That's the problem. He has some appreciable tools, but he never parlayed that to production on the field.

Dead-on regarding Kiwi.

And I'm inclined to think the same of Wright, having watched the last couple of games of the season and listening to some of the people here that I trust...

CoMoChief 04-21-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
I'm stoked about Lawson because I saw him play three or four games and the Senior Bowl. The guy reminds me of Dwight Freeney comming off the edge. And when Freeney came out of college, I was pimping him big time for the Chiefs. We passed and actually traded up to get Sims. If Lawson is still there at #20, I hope we don't pass again this year.

I'm willing to sacrifice a few rushing yards a game for the chance at game changing plays these type of guys can make. Our best defensed were when DT had this same type of role comming off of the edge.


We run a 4-3. Theres no way he could beat out NFL tackles at only 240 lbs. This has Gary Stills written all over it.

hypersensitiveZO6 04-21-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
I don't understand all the bad vibes for Kiwanuka? Can you enlighten me/us? Seriously? :hmmm:

Thanks.


Nothing against Kiwanuka, but there are much better prospects at tackle. Watch the DT video.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9315053


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