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trndobrd 11-27-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz
How is he a Journeyman? He played 6 seasons for his first team and is in his 4th season for his second team. These are not the characteristics of a journeyman. The majority of QB's still need a strong running game to be successful.

His first team was Arizona. 6 years with the Cardinals does not catapult a QB into the realm of the elite. With passer ratings of 73.1, 75.0, 50.8, 66.0, 79.6 and 65.7 during his AZ years he was hardly burning up the field.

Every quarterback benefits from a strong running game. Elway didn't win a SB until Denver got a running game. Marino never won the big one because Miami was never able to develop a strong ground attack.

However, Jake has been repeatedly shown an astonishing inability (since his rookie year) to take a game in his own shoulders and carry his team.

UL Washington 11-27-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Bad news for the rest of the AFC West. I remember how much better Denver's offense was when they had Griese. I don't know how good Cutler will be, but he'll be better than Plummer.

As much as I don't like Shanahan, it is testament to his offensive mind that he was able to make Jake effective with his smoke-and-mirrors for as long as he was... Plummer is a gimmick quarterback just like Kordell Stewart was for the one or two good years he had. If everything goes just right, and the defense is always kept guessing, the QB can look good...when the defense starts catching on to the gimmicks, it's all over.

I agree. It's an upgrade at the position. Also, it's a head start on next year. They weren't going anywhere this year with Plummer so why not get the future starter some PT.

alanm 11-27-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by meStevo
I hope Jake goes to a team that I can root for, I liked watching him play in AZ.

I think we would have beat Denver even more if Cutler was in at QB vs us, Jake avoided a number of sacks that would have just killed drives, they have to fix their OLine problems.

And there's the rub. Plummer had the ability to avoid sacks. I doubt Cutler has half the mobility.

Hammock Parties 11-27-2006 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm
And there's the rub. Plummer had the ability to avoid sacks. I doubt Cutler has half the mobility.

Actually Cutler is very mobile. He's probably a little faster than Plummer, although not quite as quick. But that bootleg will still be dangerous.

Sure-Oz 11-28-2006 12:37 AM

Cutler, I believe will make that team a threat again on offense. We'll see how it goes, Jake was the worst starter in the NFL imo, considering what he had for a team.

boogblaster 11-28-2006 12:39 AM

Maybe so on the mobility..but I think Rat-face wants him to do the 5 and 7 step drops and fling the pig..doubt if the Oline can help him, plus he needs more WRs...guess we'll see ....

FAX 11-28-2006 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Actually Cutler is very mobile. He's probably a little faster than Plummer, although not quite as quick. But that bootleg will still be dangerous.

If you don't mind my asking ... what have you seen, Mr. GoChiefs, that fosters this opinion?

FAX

007 11-28-2006 01:02 AM

Jeez. IT was Plummer's fault they blew the lead against SD? That is what the article points too as part of their reasoning? That Denver media needs a swift kick.

They never should have traded for Jake in the first place.

GoodDaySir! 11-28-2006 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX
If you don't mind my asking ... what have you seen, Mr. GoChiefs, that fosters this opinion?

FAX

I don't have the video link in front of me, but Cutler did run the option in college.

Bugeater 11-28-2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
He's probably a little faster than Plummer, although not quite as quick.

:spock:

listopencil 11-28-2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodDaySir!
I don't have the video link in front of me, but Cutler did run the option in college.


From what I recall he ran the option his first two years. He probably runs the bootleg better than Plummer even as a rookie.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2006 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX
If you don't mind my asking ... what have you seen, Mr. GoChiefs, that fosters this opinion?

FAX

I watched Cutler in preseason.

Hammock Parties 11-28-2006 01:57 AM

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He is an excellent conditioned athlete at the quarterback position who reminds me of current NFL quarterback "Jeff Garcia", in his athletic movement and mobility to run and throw on the move, he is a bigger better athlete at the position who is a better pocket passer than Jeff, with the lack of cohesiveness of his offensive line his running skills are on display more often than I am sure he would like to prefer, with him frequently on the move and commonly taking hits he shows good durability for the position as well, he also gives you the added dimension to extend passing plays with his mobility of avoiding would be tacklers, and once he breaks containment on the run he is a very dangerous and instinctive runner who shows the speed to get up field and gain significant yardage
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Cutler's good athleticism is a big part of the reason that he was able to be a productive quarterback at Vanderbilt despite constantly being under heavy pressure and having to create something when the play breaks down. He has the quick feet to step up quickly in the pocket to avoid the wide rush and has shown ability to buy a second chance and make a play outside of the pocket.

He has the quick hands and feet to set up and get rid of the ball fast. He is very smooth and fluid athletically, which helps him to consistently throw accurately on the move despite not setting his feet and throwing with good footwork/technique. He is a very coordinated athlete for a quarterback, which has enabled him to keep his feet and make good plays scrambling with the ball. Helacks elite speed, but has enough to consistently scramble for the first down.

Taco John 11-28-2006 02:51 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3&q=Jay+Cutler

ShortRoundChief 11-28-2006 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

that's beautiful, wasn't leaf a stud in college as well


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