I agree.

And the part in bold is just sad. We have just had a complete overhaul an nearly every spot on the defense over the past couple of years. Gun has received everysingle thing he has asked for. Including a HC he said he was on the same page with. Heard on the radio the other day that Herm and Gun have different philosophies on defense. :hmmm:

Time to clean house. Players and coaches alike.

Wow...what an idiot.

After the Cleveland game he tells the media that he was worried all week about that team. They got embarrassed the week before. Well we went to Cleveland and got "embarrassed" and then lost at home to the Ravens the next week. So tell me why the in hell HE can't motivate his team to deliver. He a junk coach. I won't watch the game, too much of a waste of time.

They had plenty of bonding moments under the previous regime. It turned them into pussies.

Your last sentence is definitely at least debatable. He just doesn't seem to have a grasp on things during the game. Even my wife, who knows nothing about football, occassionally says during the game "why does the Chiefs coach always look so confused?"

That being said, your first sentence is crap. The process by which Herm led that team to 4-12 was pretty simple:

Step 1: Starting QB injured
Step 2: 2nd-string QB injured
Step 3: 3rd-string QB injured
and so on.

Finally somebody levels a valid criticism.

He not only gave away the game at Clevelan, he did it with vintage MARTYBALL.

No, it has nothing to do with the offense. It has to do with going to a prevent-style defense in the middle of the THIRD QUARTER.

I agree, they got a ****ing hug after a bad play, instead of a warning. **** up on YOUR job repeatedly and what do you get? A warning and maybe more training. **** up after the training and you're history. Gotta love those hugs and kisses though.

You know buddy, I really just dont care anymore.. I am not surprised at this article, our record and wouldnt be surprised if next year is more than the same as this year. Terrible clock managment, play calling, game planning and just overall poor decisions from the HC. I will root for the Chiefs, but hope of building a contender is a pipe dream for the next 4-6 years... Just ask a Jets fan about hope with Herm...

So he went to a couple of playoffs, Yeah! Joy Joy! There is a reason he was fired in NYJ, the act is tired, the records and history speaks for itself...

Today is the last time you will hear me ever say anything more about the joke of a coach here in KC. Good or Bad... So call me out if I say anything.

Someone earlier brought up something that was interesting.... TN_Chief? The only reason he is a head coach still is because of Carl Peterson.... I cant see anything promising that he brings to a team..


So there it is Htismaqe, my last little jab about Herm.....

Looking forward to other debates with you in the future.

This team needed gutting in 1998. Instead, they kept Carl and he kept Gunther. It's been all downhill from there.

I don't really care anymore either. As far as Jets' fans opinions on Herm, I could care less. It's the JETS. Their history as a football team is akin to the Chicago Cubs, only with MUCH MORE losing. It's a bad team, a bad franchise, and he happened to be one of their more successful coaches EVER.

He wasn't fired in New York. That's not accurate.

And TN_Chief was patronizing Herm. He said Carl was ONE reason Herm was still employed. The second he left up to us to decide, but he was obviously inferring that the only reason Herm has a job is because he's BLACK. Which is undeniably among the dumbest things ever posted here.

All of that being said, I'm done with this staff. Carl and Herm need to go immediately after the season. The only reason I'm not more vocal about it is because I know too damn well that Clark will sit on his hands and do nothing. It's the Chiefs' legacy.

Pretty much! :thumb:

The person of debate was going to be fired if Carl didnt so graciously give Bradway a 4th round pick for this individual... Everyone in the NFL knew this person was getting canned....

Black or whatever, I still sucks and doesnt matter. Jets, Cubs, Chiefs? Whats the difference?

Hopefully Clark won't have to be hit over the head with a sledge hammer as many times as the Glass family was before they finally got the message.

The truly beautiful thing about your statement is that it actually tells me a lot about you, as opposed to the assumptions you're making about me based on what I wrote.

Welcome to the board. If you can't take mild ribbing for intentionally stirring the pot -- for being a n00b who instantly criticizes the board and tries to tell lifelong Chiefs fans what kind of fans they should be -- then you should drink heavily tonight and then drive your car into a tree, killing yourself instantly in a very gruesome and gory way that gets posted on r-o-t-t-e-n.com.

Oh is it? You'd have to be a moron to not be cognizant of the NFL's hissy fit whenever a team hires a coach without the search process including an African-American candidate or two. What has that led to? Romeo Crennel has been a mess in Cleveland. Herm has a career losing record (over 6 seasons) as a head coach. Art Shell...don't even get me started. In my opinion, and I'm entitled to it provided I'm not offensive about expressing it, these guys are still around as HCs because they fit the league's desire to appear PC. I'm not suggesting that there aren't excellent African-American head coaches. Dennis Green, though a mess in Arizona, was great in Minnesota (and despite the trainwreck in the desert still has an impressive coaching record). Tony Dungy has been an outstanding coach for two teams. But IMO, some coaches have been guaranteed virtual immortality due to their skin color (because the league desperately wants to appear progressive).