the bra and panty chick fights

My Grandmother (R.I.P.) was one of them. I remember walking through the house, noticed her watching it. I blurted out that the stuff was fake and OMG, she vehemently defended the crap.

Kemper Arena and safety harnesses.




Sorry that was a terrible sickening joke. I was acutally 30ft away from where Hart fell. Kinda weird really.

Wrestling was awesome in the late 90's and turn of the century. After Rock and Austin left wrestling just went to shit. The stars they have now are just horrible and you couldnt pay me to go to an event now and I think everyone is tired of seeing HHH winning all the time. I used to go to RAW in KC and STL everytime they came into town. There's just no star power anymore and probably wont be for a long time. UFC is getting more and more publicity by the day and IMO will become larger than the wrestling venue.

C'mon. Lighten up. It's a modern day traveling circus. It's the freak show in all its glory. It's a a soap opera for guys. It's goofy fun that will make you chuckle...if you don't make the mistake of taking it too seriously.



Do you get pissed when you go see a movie because it was scripted? Are you annoyed that most television shows have been pre-recorded and that the end is as certain as death and taxes? Are you still mystified by the clown car and do you feel the need to denounce it as impossible to the others at your local circus?


Relax and let a little goofiness into your life. It won't hurt. I promise.

I presume that diatribe was typed for my benefit?

You do know who you're talking to, right?

A little goofiness has long permeated every fiber of my being. I don't need wrestling (nor the globetrotters) to help me relax.

I used to like wrestling back in the day when Hogan, Savage, Andre the Giant, Iron Sheik wrestled. Those were the "glory days" of wrestling and I loved watching them.

Today not so much but I did enjoy watching the Rock and Austin when they were around. Today the only real star the WWE has is HHH at least on RAW.

I admit I watched it religiously when WCW was at its prime, especially during the height of the "NWO" campaign. I would never miss Nitro or Thunder, and i'd occasionaly flip to RAW.

IMO it went downhill with the "Stone Cold Steve Austin" shit. It was no longer the good guys vs the bad guys, it was the bad guys vs "the man", the man being Vince McMahon and the administration. WWF(E) started resorting to shock value for entertainment all the while whipping out ridiculous story lines that only children or very low brow reeruns would appreciate. WCW had to compete, so it catered to redneck morons as well, and that is when I stopped watching. When Bret Hart retired, I stopped watching all together.

The style turned me off as well. There used to be ring technicians who would make you believe what was going on, now it is all about camera presence, make up, coconut oil, and who can stomp the loudest on the ground to make the punches sound "real". It is no longer wrestling, it is just punching and kicking with the occasional arm-bar clothesline. No more submission moves, no more lucha libres, just a bunch of roided up wannabe actors.

<------- THIS GUY

Also, Ring of Honor is pretty rad.

Jay Lethal vs. Curry Man
Samoa Joe in a comedy match vs. Delirious, Jack Evans, and EBESSAN
Low-Ki vs. KENTA
Delirious cuts an amazing promo on the greatest wrestler in the world, Bryan Danielson
Joe and Danielson vs. KENTA and Marufuji

$750 for a ticket is not that far off from "just under 1000". I'm just saying.

Last wrestling match I ever saw (the whole thing) was The Rock vs. Hogan.

My 2 all time favorite wrestlers competing at Wrestlemania. I didn't even care who won, I was just shocked because I never thought I'd ever see that match.

I remember the event titled "Icon vs. Icon" lol.

WCW lost out in the end because of stupid petty infighting and their managements allegiance to guys like Hogan and Kevin Nash....Eventually all of their talented wrestlers took off to the WWF and they were screwed, screwed well before they went to really stupid storylines.

Steve Austin almost single handedly started the mainstream wrestling boom of that time, he in essense saved the WWF which had been getting creamed by WCW until he came around.

You are probably already aware.......but Tornado's gonna be on WSX.

No shit. In turn, he ruined it.

I wouldn't really say he ruined it. There are peaks and valleys in wrestling, before the NWO took off in 96-97 wrestling in general had been bad been for several years. They'll continue to try to latch onto what caused the last boom till they find the new niche. Vince tried to hold onto the 80's boom forever until eventually they changed.

They just simply don't have the same sort of roster they once had or the overall talented guys. Guys like Rock and Austin are once in a life time performers and they're gone now.

Everything that was the attitude era the late 90s early 2000's peaked in 2001 at Wrestlemania 17 which is one of the greatest wrestling shows ever done.

So after that there is going to be years of downswing and staleness it's the nature of the business.

Because it's real.