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Wile_E_Coyote 02-06-2007 12:06 PM

Warfield is gone, Hicks & Sims are no longer starting. The Ty Law groupies got their man. Wesley & Knight's futures as Chiefs are not certain. This time last year several would be more than overjoyed with that fact

Messier 02-06-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
I will take getting into the playoffs anyway as well, but at least show up and make the game interesting for more than a quarter. Our showing was the worst I can remember in recent memory in the playoffs.


You know, I heard Clinkscale say something like this 0n 810. Was it really the worst in resent memory? I maintain it wasn't even the worst in this years playoffs. I'd be more embarrassed if I were a Baltimore fan with that showing. Staying with worst in recent memory, however, how far back we going? Five years? I say the two times the Broncos went to the Colts and got blown out were much worse than our loss. I'm just saying...

FAX 02-06-2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier
You know, I heard Clinkscale say something like this 0n 810. Was it really the worst in resent memory? I maintain it wasn't even the worst in this years playoffs. I'd be more embarrassed if I were a Baltimore fan with that showing. Staying with worst in recent memory, however, how far back we going? Five years? I say the two times the Broncos went to the Colts and got blown out were much worse than our loss. I'm just saying...

Please refrain from attempting to make sense, Mr. Messier.

We're trying to throw poop here.

FAX

Halfcan 02-06-2007 12:43 PM

All that taken into account-Herm still can't manage a game. Those screw ups fall right on him.

FringeNC 02-06-2007 12:50 PM

Did Herm have more or less talent on defense? Was the defense appreciably better, especially after adjusting for strength of schedule?

It's funny how it's all Herm supposedly improving our defense, but blameless in the collapse of our offense.

I want those in the pro-Herm camp to rank GMs and head coaches in our division, then ask themselves again if there is reason for optimism. Does anyone have Peterson or Herm better than 3rd?

HemiEd 02-06-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

WOW I wonder why we fell so much offensivley???


The answer is blowing in the wind. Run, Run, Pass -Punt

88TG88 02-06-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
My reasons

1. Herm won 9 games with a broken down shell of a team.
2. Herm has the D going in the right direction.
3. Herm has shown the ability to draft well and build good football teams.

For the last 3 yrs I read how the offense is going to decline due to age. It finally happened and everyone is shocked. Some people blame Herm for that; I don't.

:clap: rep

Archie Bunker 02-06-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Did Herm have more or less talent on defense? Was the defense appreciably better, especially after adjusting for strength of schedule?

It's funny how it's all Herm supposedly improving our defense, but blameless in the collapse of our offense.

I want those in the pro-Herm camp to rank GMs and head coaches in our division, then ask themselves again if there is reason for optimism. Does anyone have Peterson or Herm better than 3rd?

I'd rank Herm/CP ahead of DV/CP based on talent evaluation alone. I would rank Denver 1st with SD and KC about the same.

Baby Lee 02-06-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Hey, if you dont like my honesty about the situation, put me on ignore..

WTF is up with this new tact.
"My opinion is sacrosanct. If you observe any flaws in it, please refrain from pointing them out and just put me on ignore."

You're free to spout your opinion, KC Fish is free to point out how 'tarded it is.

Win-Win.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Yes, IF herm wins the Super Bowl I will admit I am wrong, Acutally if he just coaches in an AFC championship game I will admit I am wrong. But there hasnt been anything in his coaching career to lead anyone to think other wise.

Wonder how that take applies in the case of Mr. Trent Green? :hmmm:

FringeNC 02-06-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I'd rank Herm/CP ahead of DV/CP based on talent evaluation alone. I would rank Denver 1st with SD and KC about the same.

You think Carl is as good as AJ Smith?

Chiefnj 02-06-2007 01:06 PM

People keep talking about huge defensive improvements this last year. The difference in points allowed between 2005 and 2006 was very small; only 10 points (325 in 2005 and 315 in 2006).

Baby Lee 02-06-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
People keep talking about huge defensive improvements this last year. The difference in points allowed between 2005 and 2006 was very small; only 10 points (325 in 2005 and 315 in 2006).

They're blanking out post-dildo party games.

Seriously, I think the crucial aspect of most folks estimation of the D's improvement is the performance against the Colts. I wouldn't have thought it possible.

FAX 02-06-2007 01:16 PM

You didn't think what was possible, Mr. Baby Lee?

FAX

Baby Lee 02-06-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX
You didn't think what was possible, Mr. Baby Lee?

FAX

The D perf against peytie-pie.

HonestChieffan 02-06-2007 01:24 PM

The good news for the Chiefs is that there are people who think Herm will do ok.

Then there are the rest of us that dont believe in Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny, or that The Chiefs did not get lucky this year.

Keep expectations low, avoid disappointment.


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