That's pathetic.

That's what it is.

Vermeil was around 500 too. Did you want him run out of town?

Herm has not coached the Chiefs longer than 2 years. I don't give a shit what he did with the Jets.

The fact you let your hatred for a head coach ruin your football experience tells me you're just a miserable SOB in life.

Yep it's all Herm. Green missing the most of the season, 4 different tackles, a banged up Waters, no WRs, and Shields being half player he used to be had nothing to do with it.

<i>Vermeil was around 500 too. Did you want him run out of town? </i>

Yes! On a rail!

<i>He de-DVed the offense o.k.</i>

I don't want to turn this into another 'CK bashes DV thread' but DV built a hollow team. It was all based on a win now and to hell with later mindset. With Roaf leaving and Shields being a shadow of himself this offense would've tanked regardless. Herm just happened to be the guy that stepped into it.

Will he improve things? I have my doubts but I'll give him time to cut out the whiny, cry baby, soft as a baby butt culture DV put in place and get some talent that doesn't require a walker.

Actually my mother is not a Bitch, sorry to disappoint you. I gave DV alittle more slack than Herm, DV proved he could build a superbowl team. Sorry he didnt do it here, but he was proven... Herm? He has proved he is Marty...

Miserable SOB? Wow, for someone that has never met me, that is sure a strong opinion of someone based on a disagreement on a message board.

Actually, I am stoked, I have one year left until I finish my BS Degree, Should be flying for an airline in the Fall of 08... 2 great awesome kids and been married to my HS sweetheart for 15 + years... Thanks for the concern, but I am living the American Dream...

True but you can't deny that Herm didn't change the offense because he has admitted as much.

He should have followed his best friend Tony Dungy's lead and not **** with what works.

Nice Post! Rep!

Regardless of Herm ****ing with what worked or not, But both Carl and Herm burried their heads in the sand and left us raped at LT....


If Herm didnt buttsex the offense, we would of went through 4+ QB's last year...

ROFL ROFL ROFL

No question that CP didn't plan for the future at LT or if he did he sorely misjudged some talent.

With that being said they should have gone back at looked at last years tape and see what they did when Roaf was gone for 6 games.

I don't remember them pressuring the QB much in '05 when Roaf was gone but I could be wrong.

I'm sure Trent being out much of the year and Willie Roaf being gone had nothing to do with it.

I know he did but how could he not? An offense is only as good as the line and the Chiefs line was one of the worst in the NFL. The Chiefs had one strength and it was the power running game. Herm used it and I don't blame him for it; hell he got 9 wins out of it.

If in year 3 and 4 the Chiefs are still in run, run, pass mode then I complain like everyone else.

Actually I finally live back in the midwest, so most of the games where on Locals last fall and the ones that arent, I will just drive up to Parsons KS and watch them with my uncle's...

No need to spend the money for something that I wont hardly use...

I just threw that in there to kick the sand at you....

I was playing the role of Reerun and Fringe. See my other posts in this thread.

I wonder how long it will take Norv to de-Martify the Chargers. I hope he gets started right away.

so Skip, how do you feel about this? You switched after the Cleveland game right?