If they hadn't run Texas today, they would have lost. The Dance, however, detracts from running teams game. Because they keep stopping the game for TV time outs and let the runee rest. I love to run but you also need to play other styles in that tournament. Roy couldn't do that. Self can.

There are the same amount of TV timeouts for every single college game. It doesn't change for the Tournament.

He's not though.

Bob Knight
Coach K
Roy Williams
Tom Izzo
Jim Boehiem


Sorry, but Self is not in this group.

KU has the bench ..that alone should get them pretty far ...

So is that the top 5 this season? Active coaches? All-time? Point is, your list is very subjective.

This season...
Knight --bubble team, sneaks in as a 10 seed
Coach K --terrible season, lucky to not get worse than a 6 seed
Roy --fine season, 1 seed
Izzo --mediocore team, mediocore conference, 9 need
Boehiem --didn't get in

Active...
I could agree with that list.

All-time...
Of course not.

over the last 11 games, KU is 11-0, has averaged 81 points, and won by a margin of 18 points per game....too bad we like to grind it out....

if we ran I bet we'd average 82-83 points, Damn You Bill Self!!

Man his college roommate believes in the same crap, and he has a team built to run.

Missouri State was 16-0 when scoring over 75 points a game. Yet he would rather grind it out, what a complete jackass and it cost him a NCAA berth as well.

Great quote from Self after the game. This game was a prime example of how running can hurt you. Texas did it all game, and therefore couldn't protect the lead. Too many possessions lead to too many points:

"Trust me, we don't try to get down 22 again. The one thing about Texas, when we play them, the game is a lot faster than it was against K-State or Oklahoma. Twent-two isn't quite as many because there is so many more possessions in the game. And so even though we were down 22 at 32 to 10, it looked like we could get blown out, I still sensed there was time. Being down, to some people, 13 is like being down 20. Being down, to some people, 20 is like being down 13. That's the way Texas and us both play. We were up 4, 5 coming out of time out and the next time you know they score 7 straight points in 35 seconds. There were a lot of points scored in short spurts. "

Nor will he be until he wins a title.

If he wins one this year or soon, you could argue that he is every bit as good a coach at this point and time as anyone on that list. And outside of K and Roy, he is in a situation where he is set up to win and win a lot for a long time.

Still, until he gets to a final 4 and wins it, that's a big if...

Tell that to Roy Williams. That is where I got it.

Self is a politician. He'll tell you what you want to hear. But when all is said and done, he will kick your ass.

As usual, he's full of shit.

Both halves TV timeouts are the same. The first dead ball:
- Under 16 minutes
- Under 12
- Under 8
- Under 4

Are the lenght of the timeouts the same?

I asked for the 5 best OVERALL coaches; recruiting, gameplan, and gameday.


Bob Knight- Is now where near one of the best coaches anymore, he does not care to be. He can't/won't recruit; his gameplan is still one of the best but if it fails they lose by 20 because he can't make in game adjustments

Coach K- Can't argue.

Roy Williams- Can't Argue, although if his gameplan fails and they can't run people out of the gym his lack of gameday adjustments and inability to play another style hurts him.

Tom Izzo- Great coach, although he is no where near the recruiter Bill Self is. And with Michigan State's recent success over the last decade there is no excuse for that.

Jim Boeheim- Can't believe you even included him on this list. Just for you to reference him with the others is an insult to them. He caught lightning in bottle one year with Carmelo Anthony. Case in point in 30 years of coaching he has been to only 3 final fours and 1 national championship.