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boogblaster 03-26-2007 03:07 PM

Be ready to rat your fellow-man..kiss ass till your lips invert..work weekends for the privilage of being part of the management-team..ps.with no extra-pay..go to every after-work stuff-shirted advancement party..finally,give them about 30 years of your life only to find out you're too old,you'll have to take a early-1/2 rate retirement... thanks management you back-stabbing bastards.....

Reaper16 03-26-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian
Oh yeah....

I just had a resume' on my desk and after browsing the cover letter, it reminded me of another piece of information.

Don't spell "matrix"..."matrices" on your cover letter.

That's the plural of matrix, though. Was the use of the plural form intentional?

vailpass 03-26-2007 03:34 PM

If you become a manager don't figure out what your salary breaks down to per hour worked, it will only discourage you.

Saulbadguy 03-26-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
If you become a manager don't figure out what your salary breaks down to per hour worked, it will only discourage you.

It's an hourly job. ;)

Saulbadguy 03-26-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium
Focus on your project management experiences and how they related to other departments, individuals, etc. Explain how you were able to keep the other departments/individuals on task and equate that to being the near equivalent to supervision.

This seems like very good advice. Many interviewers are going with behavioral type scenarios, and it would be wise for me to think up a few scenarios like the above and use them for my interview.

Skip Towne 03-26-2007 06:11 PM

Get 6 inches taller. The big guys always get the good jobs.

Simplex3 03-26-2007 06:48 PM

Pour a bowl of antifreeze for yourself.

Halfcan 03-26-2007 07:05 PM

drink a bunch of whiskey before you go in-it will relax you.

Buzzwords huh- say ****in A a lot to show your excitement for the job-that usually works.

And try not to be yourself-lol

Goodluck!

Slick32 03-26-2007 10:33 PM

If you haven't shown any leadership abilities in the job you have, at least enough for the guy that is your immediate manager to notice you might be in the middle of a gigantic pipe dream.

Self improvement courses in the area of management might be a pre-requisite for going for a job in management.

If you haven't already taken courses as such y ou might be barking up the wrong tree. Don't mean to be disrespectful here, but if they are looking for a manager they are probably not looking for a wanna be with no experience.

listopencil 03-26-2007 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
When he has no supervisory experience. I need some buzzwords to throw around. I'd really like to get this job and get some sup/management experience under my belt. It's within the agency i'm in now, so I know I will get an interview, I just need some "helpful hints".

TIA!


Go get a copy of "The One Minute Manager" and read it. It is a very quick read, easily finished in one afternoon even if you are a very slow reader. Soak in the philosophy and put it in your own terms and present it as your own personal management style.

Next, steal a management handbook from your HR department. Use that document to memorize the buzzwords and key phrases that are native to your company. Spend a lot of time with this.


Next, look up the history of your company. Find out who what its founding concepts were and who the sacred cows are. Memorize as much of this history as you possibly can.


During the interview, construct all of your responses from one of those three activities. If you have what it takes to be a good manager then that is all you will need to get promoted.

Slick32 03-27-2007 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Go get a copy of "The One Minute Manager" and read it. It is a very quick read, easily finished in one afternoon even if you are a very slow reader. Soak in the philosophy and put it in your own terms and present it as your own personal management style.

Next, steal a management handbook from your HR department. Use that document to memorize the buzzwords and key phrases that are native to your company. Spend a lot of time with this.


Next, look up the history of your company. Find out who what its founding concepts were and who the sacred cows are. Memorize as much of this history as you possibly can.


During the interview, construct all of your responses from one of those three activities. If you have what it takes to be a good manager then that is all you will need to get promoted.

I can honestly say that this recommendation is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

What this person is recommending is a flash show, if you have no substance behind your beliefs and concepts you will surely fail.

Do something that will develop the management skills needed to manage. If you get a position and have nothing of substance to give to the company not only will you lose the position you want so badly but you might also lose what you currently have.

MGRS13 03-27-2007 06:04 AM

Don't!

Saulbadguy 03-27-2007 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32
I can honestly say that this recommendation is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

What this person is recommending is a flash show, if you have no substance behind your beliefs and concepts you will surely fail.

Do something that will develop the management skills needed to manage. If you get a position and have nothing of substance to give to the company not only will you lose the position you want so badly but you might also lose what you currently have.

Wrong. It's a government position. If I fail, I will surely be promoted. ;)

/tic

teedubya 03-27-2007 06:57 AM

be sure to mention the absorbent amount of time that you spend on message boards. It will show that you know how to waste resources and government jobs are all about that.

Chief Pote 03-27-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Go get a copy of "The One Minute Manager" and read it. It is a very quick read, easily finished in one afternoon even if you are a very slow reader. Soak in the philosophy and put it in your own terms and present it as your own personal management style.

Next, steal a management handbook from your HR department. Use that document to memorize the buzzwords and key phrases that are native to your company. Spend a lot of time with this.


Next, look up the history of your company. Find out who what its founding concepts were and who the sacred cows are. Memorize as much of this history as you possibly can.


During the interview, construct all of your responses from one of those three activities. If you have what it takes to be a good manager then that is all you will need to get promoted.

Good answer listo. :clap:


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