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The Bad Guy 08-04-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
And yes, there is harm in it.

Any down he plays instead of one of the rookies would be wasted.

We can agree to disagree.

ChiefsFanInIndy 08-04-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27
Of course we should bring him in, just to take a gander and see how he works out. I mean, come on, did he really fail a physical? Or was it a Simeon Rice type deal? I think it was more about contract disputes than a failed physical. We need to sign this guy or Tank Johnson. Point blank(period)

Before the 2006 season Simon had a knee operation. A non football related health issue was discovered at that time that was serious enough for the Colts to list him on one of those non playing out for season lists. They stated it was not their place to divulge the nature of the health issue and that was up to the Simon family. They have never stated what it is.

Colts then attmepted to get back some of the signing bonus. That failed but they must have thought they had a pretty good reason. So Simon was no where near Indianapolis this past season which was only his second with the Colts after signing a huge free agent contract at the start of 2005.

Failing the physical this time was a formality. Colts never intended for him to be back as he still apparently has the non football related health issue. They have now come to a settlement that will release Simon. But he was essentially released last year as before the 2006 season started Polian made it clear he would not be back.

Whatever this non football related health issue is, it must be a whopper. If Simon manages to hook up with another team then it won't be what I think it is.

the Talking Can 08-04-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanInIndy
Before the 2006 season Simon had a knee operation. A non football related health issue was discovered at that time that was serious enough for the Colts to list him on one of those non playing out for season lists. They stated it was not their place to divulge the nature of the health issue and that was up to the Simon family. They have never stated what it is.

Colts then attmepted to get back some of the signing bonus. That failed but they must have thought they had a pretty good reason. So Simon was no where near Indianapolis this past season which was only his second with the Colts after signing a huge free agent contract at the start of 2005.

Failing the physical this time was a formality. Colts never intended for him to be back as he still apparently has the non football related health issue. They have now come to a settlement that will release Simon. But he was essentially released last year as before the 2006 season started Polian made it clear he would not be back.

Whatever this non football related health issue is, it must be a whopper. If Simon manages to hook up with another team then it won't be what I think it is.


so what is the speculation in Indy?

herpes?
WPI?

htismaqe 08-04-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
We can agree to disagree.

That's fine.

Like I said, it's a moot point. He likely won't be playing football anywhere this season, maybe not ever again.

See the post right after yours.

Easy 6 08-04-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
I'd take Johnson in a heartbeat.

I agree, his last incident was borderline at best & he always comes off as contrite & intelligent in the recent interviews i've watched.

The guy could be a MAJOR steal.

Simon???... Fatlock .

rad 08-04-2007 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
Simeon Rice couldn't pass a Bucs physical, but passes a Giants one.

I think if a team wants a player off the team, that's a perfect way to get him off - by failing the physical.

I bet James Reed can pass a physical.

rad 08-04-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanInIndy
Before the 2006 season Simon had a knee operation. A non football related health issue was discovered at that time that was serious enough for the Colts to list him on one of those non playing out for season lists. They stated it was not their place to divulge the nature of the health issue and that was up to the Simon family. They have never stated what it is.

Colts then attmepted to get back some of the signing bonus. That failed but they must have thought they had a pretty good reason. So Simon was no where near Indianapolis this past season which was only his second with the Colts after signing a huge free agent contract at the start of 2005.

Failing the physical this time was a formality. Colts never intended for him to be back as he still apparently has the non football related health issue. They have now come to a settlement that will release Simon. But he was essentially released last year as before the 2006 season started Polian made it clear he would not be back.

Whatever this non football related health issue is, it must be a whopper. If Simon manages to hook up with another team then it won't be what I think it is.

Maybe it's a psychological issue, meaning he could pass a physical, but you wouldn't want him taking a psychological evaluation.

Does the NFL do that?

The Bad Guy 08-04-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rad
I bet James Reed can pass a physical.

I bet I could too.

Does that mean I could play D-Line for the Chiefs?

rad 08-04-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
I bet I could too.

Does that mean I could play D-Line for the Chiefs?

Go try out.

Couldn't hurt to "take a look", could it?

I mean, with all the POS DT's we're fielding now, I'm sure you have a legitamate shot.

The Bad Guy 08-04-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rad
Go try out.

Couldn't hurt to "take a look", could it?

I mean, with all the POS DT's we're fielding now, I'm sure you have a legitamate shot.

I'd love to hear you argue we have any DT's worth any substance right now.

Considering them anything but marginal guys is hilarious.

Easy 6 08-04-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
I'd love to hear you argue we have any DT's worth any substance right now.

Considering them anything but marginal guys is hilarious.

The thing to me about Simon, is that he was brought in to Indy be THE guy of that interior & disappointed almost immediately. One has to wonder why he couldnt get motivated, playing for a perennial contender.

I think your discounting Boone too much, he was the 2nd best guy to Tommie Harris in Chicago & put up equal & in some categories better stats than Tank Johnson.

If we put him next to a space-eater like Edwards & spot-in our young guys & rotation guys...this interior could be a lot better than your thinking IMO.

Given a choice, wouldnt you rather bring in Tank Johnson???

NaptownChief 08-04-2007 07:32 PM

Simon is probably the one guy in the NFL that could make Ryan Sims look like Jack Lalanne in terms of discipline and work ethic.

rad 08-04-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
I'd love to hear you argue we have any DT's worth any substance right now.

Considering them anything but marginal guys is hilarious.

We don't know what we have in the 2 rookies yet, but I know the answer isn't a 30 yr. old who may have polyarthritis.

Marginal is better than that.

I'm sick of these "let's take a look...." threads, scrambling after other teams' scraps like a bunch of vultures. How about "Lets take a look and DEVELOP who we drafted?"

The Bad Guy 08-04-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rad
We don't know what we have in the 2 rookies yet, but I know the answer isn't a 30 yr. old who may have polyarthritis.

Marginal is better than that.

I'm sick of these "let's take a look...." threads, scrambling after other teams' scraps like a bunch of vultures. How about "Lets take a look and DEVELOP who we drafted?"

I'm tired of the homers who think that James Reed and Ron Edwards are anything more than 10-15 snap per game guys. Again, you act like bringing someone like him in would be the worst thing in the world. When you have a position of weakness like they do at DT, you don't leave any stone unturned.

Do I think Corey Simon is going to turn into his 2004 form? Probably not. But it wouldn't hurt to work him out if he's physically able to.

RedThat 08-04-2007 08:03 PM

I may be speaking a little too early, but i think Turk McBride and Tank Tyler will be pretty good players.

With that being said, I think Alphonso boone can be a solid rotational player, and a decent run stuffer for the Chiefs. I think James Reed and Ron Edwards are solid rotational players and pretty decent backups.

As for Corey Simon, meh, I think I'd pass. Im more content with what the Chiefs have done already. And they have established some youth at the DT position. What else more can we ask for? just hope those guys are going to be good.


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