You start with the QB, WR, and LT. That's 1 offensive lineman, and 2 non-offensive linemen.

The Colts started with Manning, Harrison, and Glenn, and added the rest later on. The Pats started with Brady, Branch (since replaced with Moss), and Light, and added the rest later on (Light is the only O-lineman from their first SB winner still on the team). The Packers already had Favre, but added Driver/Walker, and Clifton first. Most of the rest of their linemen are 1st and 2nd year players (meaning they were added last).

Here's what I am most afraid of: Herm works his magic and has the best team in the league. We are at a critical point in the 2nd half of the conference championship game when Herm has one of his massive brain farts. And we lose. No matter how good a team he builds he will never be able to overcome his own stupidity. He is not a HC and he needs to get the hell out of town.

We may be talking past each other again, Mr. Zouk. If I'm responsible for that, I apologize.

In an ideal world, the strategy you outline makes total sense. However, it assumes that the other linemen are competitive or even servicable. With the exception of Waters, ours is not. I like Wiegman, but we're certainly not playing to his strengths either. If you're saying that you can realistically develop offensive skill players with little or no blocking across the board, I am forced to disagree. I don't think Herm would believe that either.

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I was actually thinking about this today. It seems here and NY Herm has had alot of problems with injuries to his players.

I am curious if it is the way that he conducts practices or lack thereof that could contribute to it?

DV would have monster 3 hr long practices and we were mostly always healthy.

Just curious

Herm will never have the best team in the league. He will ALWAYS start slow. We will NEVER win a division championship here under Herm. I'm convinced his ceiling is 10, MAYBE 11 wins, MAX.

No, I hear you - you're right. You asked exactly the right question - what made us think Terry and Turley could be adequate at RT? That and thinking Mike Priefer could coach special teams are by far the 2 biggest blunders and the 2 situations that need to be rectified this offseason.

But those mistakes are much smaller and more fixable in my opinion than messing up 1st round draft picks.

Edit your post, cocksmoker.

We've been well below league average in injuries each of the last 2 years.

Okay, the strange, out-of-context reference to 1st round picks aside, it looks like we're getting somewhere, Mr. Zouk.

Forget about weighing the quality and quantity of the screw ups for a second and let's agree for the moment that Terry/Turley/Welbourne's deplorable play have clearly demonstrated that they are not the answer at RT or even RG.

Why did Herm not recognize that fact in camp? That's the question. If he's God's gift to humanity in the area of player evaluation, how could he not see what we've seen all year long? Or, if he did know, why would he not look elsewhere when he had the opportunity?

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I was quoting best case scenario. Even if he built the best team in the history of the world he would still fuck it up with his brain farts. He is not a HC.

Surely you can be more original with your name-calling.

The only reliable way to get players is through the first day of the draft or the first couple of weeks of unrestricted free agency. Sometimes you hit on a 2nd day pick, but it doesn't happen regularly and you can't count on it in planning how to build a team.

Based on needs and who the best players/values available were in the draft and free agency, we have not yet been able to find the right long-term solutions at RG or RT. There's no question about that. I agree we should have been able to find a better short-term answer for this year at those positions. Whether those guys were out there on the street in August is highly questionable, but again I agree it can't be much worse.

Still my point is that messing up on short-term fixes (players we do not spend significant signing bonuses or 1st day picks on) is far less problematic than messing up on planned long-term solutions (which is what Carl-Vermeil-Stiles did and is why we're in this mess to begin with).

Not at the QB position or the RB position at least this year. You're probably right overall.

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that was a rather Dickish thing to do!!!