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ChiefsCountry 12-18-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Who made the decision to get rid of Shaub and keep Vick? Because that was really bad. Was that McKay?

I say that it was a forced move by ownership.

Simplex3 12-18-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Who made the decision to get rid of Shaub and keep Vick? Because that was really bad. Was that McKay?

I'd bet Blank was in on that. Could you imagine the outrage in "the A-T-L" if they sent QB Jesus packing and kept the white dude?

BigChiefFan 12-18-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Who made the decision to get rid of Shaub and keep Vick? Because that was really bad. Was that McKay?

I'm sure ownership looked at Vick as being their franchise QB and knew they didn't want to pay Schaub starters money on his next contract. That was slated for 08. I can't say I blame them for trying to get something in return.

kcxiv 12-18-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
The real funny part was that implied that Vick is a franchise player.

i think he sucks, but you give someone a 100mil contract he is a franchise player

listopencil 12-18-2007 11:35 PM

I don't know who it was that made the decision but...c'mon, Vick sucked ass. Nobody saw that?

listopencil 12-18-2007 11:37 PM

But...but...but...he can throw a football 500 yards! Into the parking lot! Didn't you see that Nike commercial?

dtebbe 12-18-2007 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
I'd bet Blank was in on that. Could you imagine the outrage in "the A-T-L" if they sent QB Jesus packing and kept the white dude?

Exactly. Hell the people are still wearing his shit at the games, and actually think (and hope) he will be back in 2010.

DT

Simplex3 12-18-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
I don't know who it was that made the decision but...c'mon, Vick sucked ass. Nobody saw that?

It hasn't been about how good or bad he was for the last three years. The ATL fan base would all line up to blow Vick one at a time for some unknown f**king reason. My guess is it's the old "he acts like at least as big a POS as I am and HE got rich, so it's possible for me too!!!" thing.

listopencil 12-18-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
It hasn't been about how good or bad he was for the last three years. The ATL fan base would all line up to blow Vick one at a time for some unknown f**king reason. My guess is it's the old "he acts like at least as big a POS as I am and HE got rich, so it's possible for me too!!!" thing.


Man what a joke. He would have made a very good WR though. Million dollar body, ten cent head. And the fans loved him? Must suck to be a die hard Falcon fan.

Simplex3 12-18-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Man what a joke. He would have made a very good WR though. Million dollar body, ten cent head. And the fans loved him? Must suck to be a die hard Falcon fan.

Love. Not past tense.

There was a whole slew of idiots demanding the Falcons give them their money back for their tickets after the team suspended Vick. Blank thought he was doing himself a favor selling the Atlanta Vicks to the, uhm, errr, "population" in Atlanta only to have that bite him in the ass royally.

Tribal Warfare 12-18-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
Man what a joke. He would have made a very good WR though. Million dollar body, ten cent head. And the fans loved him? Must suck to be a die hard Falcon fan.


Vick is the ultimate slash back, because he can make plays at every offensive "skill" position. He would reign terror for the opposition

DaneMcCloud 12-18-2007 11:47 PM

If the Chiefs were to move Peterson out of the daily football operations (which would be the likely move, if changes were to be made) and McKay hired as GM, he'd more than likely keep Herm because they were close in Tampa Bay.

I'm sure we'd have an excellent draft and new coaches.

Though Tampa Bay's offenses were certainly nothing to be excited about and maybe even worse than what we're seeing this year.

ChiefsCountry 12-18-2007 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil
And the fans loved him?

Color of his skin and the majority of the fan base. Hate to say but that is why.

Al Bundy 12-18-2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_McKay

As general manager for the Buccaneers from 1993 to 2003, McKay directed six teams that reached the NFC playoffs and one team that won a Super Bowl title. In 1996, McKay hired Tony Dungy as head coach, and in 1999 the Bucs played in the NFC championship game.

During his tenure as general manager, McKay drafted the following players: John Lynch (1993), Trent Dilfer (1994), Warren Sapp (1995), Derrick Brooks (1995), Mike Alstott (1996), Ronde Barber (1997), and Warrick Dunn (1997). McKay constructed the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster that featured 12 Pro Bowl players. Also, the Buccaneers' 41 Pro Bowl selections between 1997 through 2002 were the most in the NFL.

In December 2003, McKay left the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was introduced as president and general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. In his first season of directing operations, the Falcons went to the NFC Championship game.

Wikpedia is dead wrong on that. Sapp Brooks and Lynch were al Sam Wyche players.

Simplex3 12-18-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Color of his skin and the majority of the fan base. Hate to say but that is why.

Well, that exacerbated the problem, but Blank spent a great deal of time and money pimping Vick as the face of the franchise. Trotting him around like a pony at the fair in front of everyone, getting him classes on how to not suck in front of the media, etc.


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