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Consistent1 02-02-2008 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
Also watching the giants make the biggest upset in history would be a historic priveledge :)
In reality, I think they have little chance of doing that. I also believe that Plax should have just shut up. The Pats have responded well to people talking smack all year long. It also seems to me that they (Pats) will be happy to play in nicer weather again. I think that touchdown record could have been 3-5 higher if the last few games were in better conditions. That is part of they game, and he still beat it, but really didn't play that great the last few games. If all their games were in nice weather, or indoors, I think he would have set the passing yardage record too. Then having two weeks off to plan for the game will help them a ton. The Patriots did not get this far to lose, regardless of the last Giants game being too close. My guess is that they win buy a couple TD's, something like 35-21. It will be fun to watch no matter what.

stonedstooge 02-02-2008 02:12 PM
Football game of Beauty
 
Someone spoke of the beauty of football, having endzone lower level seats, watching the Chiefs offense was at most times a thing of beauty during the Vermeil years. It was awesome to see the plays develop on both running and passing plays. You could see each person performing their assignment and many plays were like poetry in motion. I just wish the defensive could have been just average. Many times the Chiefs could score at will but games were close because the opponent couldn't be stopped either.

el borracho 02-02-2008 02:18 PM
Belichik is a great coach but I won't root for a man who cheats in all phases of his life. Adultery and industrial espionage are not admirable qualities. He is a despicable man and I hope he fails.

Silock 02-02-2008 02:18 PM
Humility? The Patriots? Tell that to Brady.

"17 points? We're only going to put up 17 points? Yeah, okay."

DTLB58 02-02-2008 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan
The main reason I'm rooting for the Pats is so the 72 Dolphins will STFU FOREVER!
I would rather that these Patroits STFU

el borracho 02-02-2008 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Good stuff. I agree 100%.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7742260

PHOENIX - You cannot find a flaw or a legitimate reason to dislike them.

They symbolize what we say we want in a professional sports team. Their continued dominance of the NFL gives us our best chance of restoring integrity and common sense to professional sports.
I'll give you two legitimate reasons not to like Belichik: adultery and industrial espionage. Anyone looking to Belichik for integrity is a fool.

kcxiv 02-02-2008 02:57 PM
And the funny thing about this, is Belichik is going to go down as one of the if not the greatest coach of all time. What he's doing is amazing. His personal life is his personal life, but as a coach, 99.9 percent of the players would love to play for him.

Mecca 02-02-2008 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone
Please don't misunderstand.... I *LOVE* a good shit kicking. lol

There is a line though between domination and stupidity.

Domination, at least to me, is defined by a 30 point lead going into the 4th quarter.

Stupidity... and lack of humility, at least to me, is putting your key players at risk of getting the f00k knocked out of them and loosing them for a long stretch of time because beating them by 30 is not good enough.

Not that I wish ill on any player on any team (for the most part), but how fitting would it have been for Brady to have his shoulder dislocated in week 17 just because Bill wanted to ensure that the Pats would go undefeated.

By that point, they had nothing to loose in letting Brady, Moss, Welker, and several other key players have a seat and save them for the playoffs.

They still had the 1st round bye and still had the #1 seed over all locked up.

Again though.... that is just me. I have not played or been involved in organized football in nearly a decade so I sure as hell am not a professional, nor a coach.
So they shouldn't have played for undefeated? Are you nuts?

Also for people that want the Giants to win, that'll be far worse. The last thing I wanna hear about is the New York market talk about being underdogs and overcoming the odds....

Chiefmanwillcatch 02-02-2008 07:31 PM
Chargers and Giants are just one Tom Brady away from winning a superbowl.

The difference between great and good teams is not a lot.

FRCDFED 02-02-2008 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
So would you call that a focus on "drafting and developing a franchise quarterback"? I'm not sure. Did one develop? Of course. But we're talking a Kurt Warner situation here. It was by chance, not by design.
I disagree. While the level of Brady's success may have been underestimated I do not believe it was chance. From the moment he was drafted he worked hard with the coaches to "develop" into a quality starter. He did not have the physicality coming out of the draft but had the proper attitude which is the philosophy that is being preached. Brady spent a considerable amount of time working with Belicheck so they knew exactly what they had when Bledsoe went down. Belicheck would not have elevated Brady to the #2 QB position over Huard if he wasn't ready.

Also, Matt Cassel was a 7th round pick and I believe is now the backup to Brady. Are you going to say that NE isn't developing him to be a quality player as well?

If only we could be so fortunate to have a 6th and 7th round draft pick as our starter and backup and be confident with their development.

I think its time to start buying into all this talk of attitude!

Bearcat 02-02-2008 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
I can't stand that guy venus mars or wtf his name is
I like this rant... I could do without the arrogance and the "I'm going to explain my simple point of view with really big words because I'm SO much smarter than you", but he's exactly right. About half way through the interviewer says "No one has crowned them yet", and he corrects her, saying ESPN has already crowned them against all the great teams, and that it's way too premature to do anything like that until they actually win something.

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Stryker 02-02-2008 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
In the end, what I think the Chiefs need to do is #1 stop throwing picks away on coach and player trades, #2 find a way to parlay their picks into multiple early-round selections, if at all possible. Because, while I do think superstar players can be keys, I think a team like the Chiefs needs more than one or two guys; I think they need an infusion of talent across the board. I don't think I'd drop out of 4 or 5 this year, but I'd start to try to work on getting multiple picks in future drafts, and I'd starting doing it while we're on the clock in April. If that means trading away guys like Tony Gonzalez or Brian Waters, or even Jared Allen and Larry Johnson, I'd consider it. I'd at least listen to any offers that might come in. And, finally, they need to start hitting on most of their picks (and that might have started in 2006 and 2007). There was a ten year period where they wasted draft after draft, and that got them into the hole they've been in for most of the 21st century.

Rocket science it ain't.
:clap: Outstanding! This is well thought out and the closest thing to the truth that many Chiefs fans will (unfortunately) not accept. A true blue overhaul and complete and utter rebuild. Ground ZERO baby! :thumb:

Stryker 02-02-2008 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco
Because the game itself is a beautiful thing. And watching the Patriots play it the way they have is a historic privilege.

I 2nd that! :clap:

Peyton got his ring last year and the media STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now if the Pats win, the '72 Dolphins will STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus hopefully, the NFL will have an equinox series of years where the WINNER of the Super Bowl will be appreciated because they simply got there and...WON as the better TEAM!

pr_capone 02-02-2008 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca
So they shouldn't have played for undefeated? Are you nuts?

Also for people that want the Giants to win, that'll be far worse. The last thing I wanna hear about is the New York market talk about being underdogs and overcoming the odds....
They were lucky enough that they did not have any major injuries through the whole year.

When it is all said and done, would going undefeated still have been worth it had Brady or Moss been knocked out for the rest of the year?

I realize that is not what happened...... but Bill put the record ahead of his own players and a Super Bowl run. Not what I would have done.

Mecca 02-02-2008 10:05 PM
When you are playing for undefeated the game matters.


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