Funny how we are missing the most important one of all: QB

For the love of god Tony Gonzalez is getting old, we have to stop counting him he isn't going to play for 10 more years. Same for Larry Johnson RB years are like dog years he's on the wrong side of his career too..

The other guys hey we'll see, Bowe so far yea, DJ is improving and Hali isn't really a cornerstone he's solid.

You didn't notice that everything on the team is a need eh?

Not a big fan of it. In a draft where all the top prospects have some question marks, I think Ryan has more question marks than Ellis or even one of the tackles still available at #10.

I agree that a franchise quarterback is a key element in building a winning team, I'm just not convinced Ryan is that guy.

Having said that, I wouldn't roof test my TV if it happened.

Like I said in the same thread on the Draft forum, I am a big fan of this mock. No, we don't get the elite OT that everyone is clamoring for, but we get two stud prospects, one at the most important position in football.

That said, all this arguing is probably a waste of time since Atlanta will most likely take Ryan. Adam Shefter reported tonight on NFLN that Matt Ryan is at the top of Atlanta's draft board, and they will take him even if Dorsey is available. He also said Ryan is on the top of more team boards than most would expect.

Who knows, maybe it's last second posturing to see if KC trades up, but I think Atlanta will end up with Ryan when it's all said and done.

60% completions(yeah that's not great but it ain't bad) and 6to1 TD/INT ratio playing in some awful conditions some of the time and he made the plays when he had to for the Giants to win.

PhilFree:arrow:

ANother thing everyone needs to realize is that even with 13 draft picks, we arnt going to hit on every single one of them.

Id be ecstatic if we nailed 5 or 6 solid long term starters. Even that might be wishful thinking...

This is a good 2-3 year rebuild.

No one on this message board knows if Croyle is going to be good. He hasn't had a o-line to keep him off his ass, and he hasn't played a whole season. I don't want to be on the same situation the Browns are in, because we never gave the guy a chance.

LOL, do you really think the Browns regret drafting Brady Quinn?

HUH?? The Browns are in a great position. Id love for the Chiefs to be in a position like that.

Having one and potentially two great QBs doesn't sound like a horrible situation to me.

I never said they regretted anything. But I don't want a first round QB getting paid first round money, and Croyle ends up being something special. The browns now have 2 young QB's, and only 1 can play. If they gave Anderson another year to prove himself, they wouldn't of had to draft Quinn, and would of had another draft pick in the first round for whatever else they needed.

Let me rephrase my question so you actually have to answer it: Do you really think the Browns wish they could have their pick back this year instead of having Brady Quinn?

I'm backing Croyle but I can see the merit in drafting Ryan. The competition between the two could let us see if what we have in Croyle a little fraster and how he performs under pressure. Actually that applies to both he and Ryan.

PhilFree:arrow:

I don't know about them, but I would. If you knew Anderson was going to be this good, would you of drafted Quinn? Obviously no.