The whole sports talk show host profession is shallow in the first place. It's not easy, but it's shallow. Try filling a four-hour show with sports talk to keep people tuned in. You really can't be ill-informed. They have to be negative, to extent.

Jack Harry does a 10-minute sports highlight package every night and little else. Who cares? Also, who cares about Frank Boal interviewing you? What does that have to do with anything? Congrats, athlete, good effort out there. We're proud.

This "bullshit" isn't as bad as you make it. Tough that you have to live your life with people having different views than you, and they are, in turn, "pricks" for doing so and having the platform to do it on a bigger stage.

Oh, just go **** yourself, Champ.

I lived in KC from 1965 until 1993. As soon as internet radio was available, I tuned into 810 on a daily basis. I stopped listening a few years back because KK and friends are a bunch of ****ing hacks.

There are hundreds of people on this website alone that are more intimately familiar with the Chiefs, their personnel and the NFL. And let's not even get into baseball.

If YOU think that's what sports radio is really about, then I guess you'd better get out and travel the country or tune into sports talk in a metro area not named KC.

It's a different story, elsewhere.

You're right on, Fax, on a lot of your points. First, no way he could do what he does in many parts of the country. Because there are places, like Nashville, where every listener and business loves their teams more than life. Those sports talk guys have it easy. "Opening up the phone lines, we're talking Vols football," and just like that, you have callers for four hours, and happy advertisers.

But in KC, Fax, look around just on this board. The fickleness knows no bounds. The majority of the listeners hate Carl and love to hear him trashed on the radio. They, like KK, know Herm's offense sucks and he'll always play for field goals. They love their red and Arrowhead, but they also know this team has, and has had, more problems than the Bush administration, so KK can get away with trashing the Chiefs, and Royals, for that matter, on the radio every day.

As far as being destructive to the team, he is (and I'm using this term loosely) a journalist, and doesn't, nor should he, care if the team is hurt by his actions. He doesn't have to show up to Arrowhead and do interviews every day. Carl doesn't grant him interviews, so he loses nothing there. And on and on it goes.

You're old. I got that. That point establishes nothing.

Sports talk radio is about ratings and absolutely nothing else. It's a business, and when the ratings go sour, sports talk show host loses his job, no matter what market size he's in. Don Fortune is a prime example of that. And sooner or later, another young gun with a big mouth will come in on another station and likely push KK's and 810's ratings down, and he'll be out the door.

But for now, you're wrong. His BUSINESS is successful. His ratings are the highest in the KC market, BY FAR. And to him and 810, no other market matters. And that makes him, whether you like it or not, good at his job.

No offense but that doesn't make him GOOD.

Soren Petro? Hell yes. Excellent host.

KK? JH? DF? TL?

Awful.

Absolutely unemployeeable in another city.

The mere fact that you're defending these ****ing schlubs clearly illustrates that you're a myopic, Kansas City homer with absolutely no life experiences.

GOOD FOR YOU. :rolleyes:

I miss Ivan Carter.

Soren Petro is a great host. But is he's the best 810 offers, then why doesn't he host the drive-time show?

The mere fact that you clearly don't understand anything about media (or business in general, apparently) illustrates that you're a ignorant old man, only slightly more tolerable than Skip.

Excellent points, Mr. leviw. Your comparison of the overall KC market and the Planet is well taken. It has been and remains very interesting to me that so many people can be so consistently and thoroughly negative in respect to a team they claim as "theirs".

Maybe you're right after all. Maybe KC is the type of market that can sustain and even appreciate a guy like KK. Clearly, he wouldn't be on the air long if his approach wasn't working from a financial perspective. I find it hard to believe that he's slamming the Chiefs for altruistic reasons. All I know is that, when I imagine a guy like that in Nashville, I also imagine him being escorted from the building by a passle of security guys because one of the bank presidents called the owner and asked for a favor.

For my part, I think the KC media may have become somewhat inbred. For example, Rhonda Moss isn't a quality interviewer, in my opinion, yet she keeps her job. And, as far as local writers are concerned, they each seem to promote a particular agenda that is both predictable and transparent and have done so for many years.

I have nothing but fond memories of KC and my love for the Chiefs is practically boundless. I suppose I just think they deserve better.

FAX

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

JFC.

You're more out of touch than the average dumb****.

Good job.

PS - I guess you missed the part where I got carded just last week. Let alone the other threads pertaining to my, ahem, wealth.

I've spent the last 45 min. defending sports talk radio hosts. Yes, I'm out of touch. But really, local media coverage isn't awful in KC. Compared to bigger markets, like LA, you're right, it doesn't measure up.

What's with the sudden 180? Come on dude, BRING IT!

:evil:

Right on about the financial perspective. Again, that's what the business is all about. Rhonda Moss is a character, not a journalist. See, 610 is awful at what it does. They can't compete with 810 in any way. None. So they try to find little characters, like Rhonda Moss, to be a draw to their station. Her interviews are mainly for comic relief than insightfulness, though I'm certain that wasn't the station's intention when she came on board.

As far as the paper goes, Whitlock is the counter-everything columnist. Not much different than a sports talk host (he once was, as you probably recall). His opinion differs from the majority of the readers so readers will read to have something to argue, even if it's just to themselves. Teicher probably carries a little more of a harder edge in his work than hardcore fans would appreciate, but that kind of comes with the territory.

As a beat writer, you're around the team all the time. Eat, sleep and breathe said team. And you're natural instinct is to draw closer to them. Even root for them. But as a journalist, you're told from Journalism 101 to not get close to your beat, specifically NEVER CHEER for the team you cover in sports. Be objective. So the tendency for beat writers is to do the exact opposite and, not necessarily to root against, but to pull away and put a tougher edge on your work to show you're not a fan of the team you cover.

In return, you get glowing feature stories from Kent Babb -- never a negative tone -- and, more often than not, glowing columns from Posnanski. It normally evens out.

I already chalked this up to a won argument. Plus, I compared you to Skip, so really I couldn't possibly insult you anymore.

Wow.

Clearly, you're not familiar with the writing of our resident Christopher Marlowe, Mr. Fax.

Irony doesn't appear to be your strong suit, Mr. Levi Wevi

Comparing me to Skip is a joke, not an insult.

I think you'd better brush up on your 'Planet acumen if you really want to insult someone.

JFC.