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StcChief 10-29-2008 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5163815)
Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.
at this point no concern.....

wonder who those sacks were against.... a real database could help alot with these questions.

PhillyChiefFan 10-29-2008 11:21 AM
Especially with Sapp, that surprises me.

blueballs 10-29-2008 11:21 AM
Faneca would just take away learning snaps
like Favre is

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5163843)
Faneca would just take away learning snaps
like Favre is
from who? jones??

PhillyChiefFan 10-29-2008 11:24 AM
How has he done against players that are < Faneca. Does he still get dominated at the line?

talastan 10-29-2008 11:24 AM
Dorsey will be incredible IMO once he develops and gets some talent beside, as in an outside pass rushing threat. I think Tank is coming along fine, especially compared to last season. I think the rest of this season we should just watch and we'll see Dorsey develop right before our eyes! :drool:

milkman 10-29-2008 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5163847)
from who? jones??
The thought process was that people expected the Chiefs to be more aggressive in the draft in selecting the O-Line position.

Had most known that the only O-Lineman taken in this draft were going to be Albert and Richardson, they would probably have been for a more aggressive approach in free agency.

Chiefnj2 10-29-2008 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5163815)
Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.

Tackles are such an unreliable indicator. KC is on pace to be the worst run defense in the history of the NFL in terms of ypc. It doesn't matter if he has 100 tackles if they are 6 yards downfield.

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5163861)
The thought process was that people expected the Chiefs to be more aggressive in the draft in selecting the O-Line position.

Had most known that the only O-Lineman taken in this draft were going to be Albert and Richardson, they would probably have been for a more aggressive approach in free agency.
awwww i recall people saying faneca was a scrub. but the REAL problem was people expecting carl and herm to do the right thing

beach tribe 10-29-2008 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5163866)
awwww i recall people saying faneca was a scrub. but the REAL problem was people expecting carl and herm to do the right thing
I don't recall anyone calling the guy a scrub. Just that he didn't fit the bill of what we were doing.

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5163865)
Tackles are such an unreliable indicator. KC is on pace to be the worst run defense in the history of the NFL in terms of ypc. It doesn't matter if he has 100 tackles if they are 6 yards downfield.
really? a DT with 100 tackles wouldnt mean anything?
No matter where 100 tackles are made by a Dt would be VERY impressive. just means shit is all around him.
Do you actualy think that if he has a better season than all those guys on the list that it wouldnt mean much?
Do you think the LBs should be blamed at all?

Demonpenz 10-29-2008 11:32 AM
I dont know how you would get underneth an Olineman's pads to gain leverage without your head going lower, but I assime he you mean he is looking towards the ground

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5163872)
I don't recall anyone calling the guy a scrub. Just that he didn't fit the bill of what we were doing.
yeah they did, maybe not those words but to that effect.

blueballs 10-29-2008 11:38 AM
How are the other rookie DTs doing
I don't recall hearing Gholston's name sunday

Chiefnj2 10-29-2008 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5163877)
really? a DT with 100 tackles wouldnt mean anything?
No matter where 100 tackles are made by a Dt would be VERY impressive. just means shit is all around him.
Do you actualy think that if he has a better season than all those guys on the list that it wouldnt mean much?
Do you think the LBs should be blamed at all?
I'm not sure you can judge a "better" season by tackles. If he finishes with the same # of tackles that Haynesworth had as a rookie, but KC sets the record for worst ypc and teams ran the ball 100 more times against KC, I don't think you could consider him having a better or equal season than Haynesworth.


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