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FloridaMan88 12-15-2008 09:11 PM

Scott Pioli and Josh McDaniels= Heaven in KC

Amnorix 12-15-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5299237)
Scott Pioli and Josh McDaniels= Heaven in KC


Ouch. That would suck.

McDaniels is very young. Not even 35, but he may well get HC job offers this year after showing how Cassell has come along under his watch.

KChiefs1 12-15-2008 09:50 PM

From the San Francisco 49ers forum:

Why Pioli?

-- He's been a pro personnel assistant, director and/or vice president with four NFL franchises (Cleveland Browns, Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets and Patriots, with whom he is in his ninth season).

-- Working alongside detail-oriented coach Bill Belichick has taught Pioli how a well-oiled front office operates. Belichick's personnel and coaching staff from Cleveland included Pioli, Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, Fresno State coach Pat Hill and former Raiders personnel chief-turned NFL Network analyst Michael Lombardi. It's an impressive group of proteges.

Belichick is so meticulous in hiring and personnel matters, he's known to have backup lists of 10-12 coaches and players for every open position. Pioli has the same philosophy: Be very prepared. Be very smart.

Then there is this bit of football heritage - Pioli's father-in-law is a guy named Bill Parcells, who knows a little about the game.

-- Credibility. Having a proven commodity like Pioli in charge of the 49ers' football operation tells the NFL that the Yorks mean business as owners. That they recognize the need to bring a top football mind into their fold. In an instant, the franchise will go from irrelevant to significant - an important consideration now that the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the players is set to expire at the end of the 2010 season, and business will not go on as usual.

-- Structure. The 49ers' recent record in the draft and free agency - 10 of the 22 starters come from drafts preceding the arrival of general manager Scot McCloughan - has given Singletary a roster that lacks overall quality, talent, experience and depth.

What's worse, since 2005 the 49ers have had two head coaches, four offensive coordinators, two defensive coordinators and two special teams coaches. There is no consistency in philosophy or scheme.

-- Track record. The Belichick/Pioli system is so highly regarded around the NFL that other franchises have copied it. Falcons owner Arthur Blank hired Thomas Dimitroff - the Patriots' director of college scouting - as his general manager in January.
Dimitroff, 42, has been effusive in his praise of the "Patriots Way" as his football model, and he used it to hire head coach Mike Smith, the Jaguars' respected defensive coordinator. He also employed it in drafting quarterback Matt Ryan No. 3 overall, a 14-game starter who is now being mentioned as an MVP candidate.
Singletary has earned the right to remain as the 49ers head coach. The owners should recognize that he's not the answer to what ails their franchise, but part of the solution.

Pioli may be reluctant to leave a sure thing, but he's also on the radar of several ailing NFL franchises that desperately need to rebuild. At some point, you figure Pioli will want to make his own mark apart from Belichick, to validate his career. The timing may be right.

Jed York made his mark this season by opting for Singletary. He should keep the momentum going by pursuing Pioli, before another team gets there first.

kcchiefsus 12-15-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5298452)
I hope we continue the Colts-like philosophy of drafting, drafting and more drafting, letting free agents walk and earning compensatory picks, and only dipping occasionally into free agency if there's an ascending player looking for his second contract.

**** that. What's to say that philosophy is all that great? They have one super bowl title, big deal. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning they wouldn't even have that and wouldn't have come close any other time. Let's not act like the Colts are the model franchise or something.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2008 11:55 PM

He has a kind face.

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/pcrrn/.../hof/pioli.jpg

Brock 12-15-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5299812)
**** that. What's to say that philosophy is all that great? They have one super bowl title, big deal. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning they wouldn't even have that and wouldn't have come close any other time. Let's not act like the Colts are the model franchise or something.

It's basically the same thing most of the good teams do.

ChiefsCountry 12-15-2008 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5299812)
**** that. What's to say that philosophy is all that great? They have one super bowl title, big deal. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning they wouldn't even have that and wouldn't have come close any other time. Let's not act like the Colts are the model franchise or something.

Your an idiot

teedubya 12-16-2008 01:07 AM

Right on, Laz. I will believe with you... and rep the naysayers.

TrickyNicky 12-16-2008 01:17 AM

If I were Clark, I would overpay to get him here. Then I would tell him he has free reign, but make sure I don't overpay for anyone else.

Mecca 12-16-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5299812)
**** that. What's to say that philosophy is all that great? They have one super bowl title, big deal. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning they wouldn't even have that and wouldn't have come close any other time. Let's not act like the Colts are the model franchise or something.

It would really suck to be a team that knows the value of positions, knows when to walk away from guys, oh and knows how to draft properly.

wazu 12-16-2008 01:45 AM

Eh, don't get too hung up on this guy. If he doesn't want the top job, maybe he's a weakling. Like Gary Kubiak. Remember when he said he wanted to stay on as Shanahan's assistant a few years ago instead of taking one of the many head-coaching gigs that was available? He finally realized that people had figured out he was afraid of the top job and grabbed whatever he could find, which turned out to be the place were many coaches go to end their careers quietly.

ChiefsCountry 12-16-2008 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5300056)
Eh, don't get too hung up on this guy. If he doesn't want the top job, maybe he's a weakling. Like Gary Kubiak. Remember when he said he wanted to stay on as Shanahan's assistant a few years ago instead of taking one of the many head-coaching gigs that was available? He finally realized that people had figured out he was afraid of the top job and grabbed whatever he could find, which turned out to be the place were many coaches go to end their careers quietly.

Kubiak is doing a great job with the Texans. Bad example.

Basileus777 12-16-2008 01:57 AM

The only reason Pioli would leave is if he wants get of out of Belichick's shadow, rebuild some horrible team and cement himself as one of the best talent evaluators in the league. He would have to want that challenge. It's possible; but I don't see any evidence of him wanting to leave NE.

BigRedChief 12-16-2008 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5300081)
The only reason Pioli would leave is if he wants get of out of Belichick's shadow, rebuild some horrible team and cement himself as one of the best talent evaluators in the league. He would have to want that challenge. It's possible; but I don't see any evidence of him wanting to leave NE.

Rumors on the 49er's board that he was accepting calls from the owner to talk about the position. Myabe , BS. But you can't gaurantee that he says no unless you ask him.

wazu 12-16-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5300074)
Kubiak is doing a great job with the Texans. Bad example.

You're right. His losing record is irrelevant. He's won a lot of moral victories.


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