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JohnnyV13 12-25-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5327390)
I don't disagree but it's not like free agency isn't important.

Mecca, you're correct. FA IS different, because teams manage the cap better. BUT, Mecca, I think you're too young to remember the circumstances surrounding Hasty's arrival. Hasty was widely HATED in NY. Jets fans had as much respect for Hasty as we do for Crispy and Toasty. The the problem was, the Jets tended to play their corners in off coverage. Such a style simply didn't suit Hasty's talents. You can STILL find misused players in FA. Look at Kawicka Mitchell.

milkman 12-25-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5327396)
Mecca, you're correct. FA IS different, because teams manage the cap better. BUT, Mecca, I think you're too young to remember the circumstances surrounding Hasty's arrival. Hasty was widely HATED in NY. Jets fans had as much respect for Hasty as we do for Crispy and Toasty. The the problem was, the Jets tended to play their corners in off coverage. Such a style simply didn't suit Hasty's talents. You can STILL find misused players in FA. Look at Kawicka Mitchell.

And Hasty wasn't what was considered a "conerstone" free agent.

As it turned out he, and almost every other player you named, played at a far higher level than anyone anticipated.

The only player that one would call a "cornerstone" free agent at the time of his signing was Marcus Allen.

BigChiefFan 12-25-2008 06:42 PM

Free agency is just fine. Teams find good players in FA EVERY YEAR.

BigMeatballDave 12-25-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5327289)
Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.

LMAO

ChiefsCountry 12-25-2008 07:27 PM

Suggs is the only player we should consider. Other than that look at alot of tier 3 guys like the Darling types we signed this year. Some of those can hit big in the right situation. Other than I would hold out until 2010 or 2011.

ChiefsCountry 12-25-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5327041)
Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

Len Dawson was basically a waiver wire pickup. It would be like picking up Joey Harrington.

bowener 12-25-2008 07:28 PM

Ive been wanting people to give me some wisdom on Angelo Crowell as an OLB rotation player and possible starter. He isn't a young buck really, I think 27. He was injured this entire year due to knee injuries, and before that I think he only started one season, but in the times he got to play he was pretty good. I was wanting to know if he comes back from the knee injury without any decline, is he worth giving a cheap contract to? It would seem he would be pretty cheap since he is a little older and was hurt. I think he would be better than D. Williams.

I also wanted some info on the Rams backup/starting LDE, Victor Adeyanju. He is 6'4" 280 lbs and was supposed to be a good prospect coming out of college to be a pass rusher as a RDE off the edge, if I remember right. He has been in the league 3 years and is only 25. I was wondering if we could throw him into our DE lineup, and with better coaching, we would hopefully get more out of him and the rest of our DL.

KCCHIEFS27 12-25-2008 07:28 PM

So, for the most part, here is what I'm understanding from some of you. We need to continue to sign complementary players, such as, Domarrio Williams(5th highest paid player on the team)? Otherwise, anybody else with a higher skill set would be a complete waste of money? Really though, with a new GM coming in and hopefully a lot of other fresh personnel, don't you think some of those big time FA might give us a look now? Especially with Herm being a "player's coach".

bowener 12-25-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27 (Post 5327472)
So, for the most part, here is what I'm understanding from some of you. We need to continue to sign complementary players, such as, Domarrio Williams(5th highest paid player on the team)? Otherwise, anybody else with a higher skill set would be a complete waste of money? Really though, with a new GM coming in and hopefully a lot of other fresh personnel, don't you think some of those big time FA might give us a look now? Especially with Herm being a "player's coach".

I think we should sign who ever can help this shit get turned around. I realize most huge names aren't going to make it to the market, but I think with all this youth, adding an experienced younger star would go a hell of a long ways for us, especially on defense.

And in response to above, I think we will get a lot more of a look because of the large quantity of George Washington's we will be sitting on. Don't forget it will grow larger once we dump Surtain.

KCJohnny 12-25-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5327349)
Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.

Porter and Abraham.

Point.

KCJohnny 12-25-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5327385)
You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!

ROFL
Nice!

ChiefsCountry 12-25-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5327349)
Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.

Abraham was traded to Atlanta for a first round pick.

RustShack 12-25-2008 08:33 PM

I really wouldn't mind having Haynesworth next to Dorsey...

RustShack 12-25-2008 08:33 PM

And with Dorsey at UT next year...

banyon 12-25-2008 08:34 PM

Wow. KCJ just can't wait to get back to 8-8. He's really going to miss Carl.


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