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Mark M 01-05-2009 04:28 PM

Gretz may want to talk to the folks at KCTV 5 about Peterson going after the media for stories he didn't like -- he basically banned them from the sidelines for a few years. He would also shift people around in the press box as a form of punishment, moving local guys who didn't write glowing coverage to the back so they could barely see anything.

And while I don't have a tape, I'm gonna have to do some digging on the 5-year plan issue -- I'm fairly sure it didn't orginate out of thin air. It may not have been at the introductory press conference (a nifty little "get out of dumbassery free" card by Gretz), but Peterson did say something to that effect during his first year.

Other than that, it'll be nice when Gretz begins servicing Peterson in a different city -- we're running out of Carmex around here ...

MM
~~:shake:

Psyko Tek 01-05-2009 04:32 PM

this stood out for me

He was in the business of trying to win a championship and thus he leaves Arrowhead Stadium proud of a job well done, but ultimately disappointed in the fact the team never reached the ultimate goal.

WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP = FAIL

fail, carl

carl, you've failed

carl, you are a failure

FAIL

Jerm 01-05-2009 04:37 PM

I don't know why Gretz just doesn't propose to Carl and get it over for ****s sake.

Disgusting.

Deberg_1990 01-05-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M (Post 5359883)
And while I don't have a tape, I'm gonna have to do some digging on the 5-year plan issue -- I'm fairly sure it didn't orginate out of thin air. It may not have been at the introductory press conference (a nifty little "get out of dumbassery free" card by Gretz), but Peterson did say something to that effect during his first year.

Yea, as i mentioned earlier, im almost positive he said something or something very similiar.

AJKCFAN 01-05-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark M (Post 5359883)
Gretz may want to talk to the folks at KCTV 5 about Peterson going after the media for stories he didn't like -- he basically banned them from the sidelines for a few years. He would also shift people around in the press box as a form of punishment, moving local guys who didn't write glowing coverage to the back so they could barely see anything.

And while I don't have a tape, I'm gonna have to do some digging on the 5-year plan issue -- I'm fairly sure it didn't orginate out of thin air. It may not have been at the introductory press conference (a nifty little "get out of dumbassery free" card by Gretz), but Peterson did say something to that effect during his first year.

Other than that, it'll be nice when Gretz begins servicing Peterson in a different city -- we're running out of Carmex around here ...

MM
~~:shake:

IIRC, the "5 year plan" statement was unveiled when Carl hired Marty to be the HC in early 1989. Carl was hired by Lamar after the 1988 season ended and when Marty was unexpectedly let go by the Browns after losing the Wild Card to the Oilers, Chiefs swooped in on Marty right away.

I'm positive at Marty's intro press conference was where you got the "5 year plan" remark... either by Carl or Marty or possibly both. I also remember another quote from the press conference being "The goal every year is to compete for the championship and win a Super Bowl".

Either way, Marty & Carl had 10 years to get it done and although they were close to fulfilling that goal, they didn't. In the 10 years without Marty, Carl didn't even come close.

Can't believe the rimjob Gretz is STILL giving Carl :mad:

Hope Clark cleanses the organization completely when all is said and done.

The sooner... the better

bobbything 01-05-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5359904)
Yea, as i mentioned earlier, im almost positive he said something or something very similiar.

It started somewhere. I honestly can't believe it's completely fabricated. If you Google "five year plan" Carl Peterson, you get pages upon pages of articles. However, no mention of where it originated.

But, it had to of started somewhere because Peterson NEVER refuted it.

Skip Towne 01-05-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5359448)
And the Chiefs were paying this man...why?

He ran the Hunt's other KC businesses like Worlds of Fun.

Agent V 01-05-2009 05:12 PM

Somebody tell him to eat a bag of dicks. I'm sure he wouldn't have any trouble doing it.

Dayze 01-05-2009 06:05 PM

are theh articles from Gretz from a blog?


If so, why in the sam hell would people visit it? Sooner or later when his blog count = 20 ( or something equally as pathetic) he'll move on to a job - hopefully in a different city.

Given the hilarity of this particular article, I can see why it's posted.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2009 06:07 PM

I could be wrong but I think Gretz's blog was a pre-emptive move to give him a reason to stay in KC if the Chiefs dump him from the website. I don't know why the Chiefs wouldn't give him a press credential.

KCTitus 01-05-2009 06:41 PM

I hated Carl the moment he drafted Todd Blackledge...the 5 year plan stuff is BS, but there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

No Superbowl means the fans can make up whatever stuff they want about Peterson.

Gretz should know that.

FloridaMan88 01-05-2009 06:44 PM

The most pathetic part of this propaganda piece from Dictator Carl's personal enema is some of the feedback responses to the article:

January 5, 2009 - Noel says:
Thanks, Bob Gretz. Well done. It’s a lonely job at the top. One usually gets all the blame and none of the glory, not to mention attacks from the arrogant members of the media.

January 5, 2009 - Mark Broski says:
Bob,

Thanks for this fair assessment of Carl Peterson. Amid all the retrospectives on Carl, no one has mentioned that he is the one who ripped up the turf at Arrowhead and put in natural grass. Now that may not seem like a big deal to many people, but it was to me. For that, Carl, Thank You!

Carl has never had fair treatment from the KC media, and sort of like George Bush, he didn’t really care. But I think history, especially when the new Arrowhead appears, will show that there was much to appreciate in this man.

While I’m at it, thank you Bob for not stooping to Jason Whitlock’s level in your comments. We all know he has been very unfair to you and I believe you have handled his childish insults with a great deal of class.

January 5, 2009 - ILChiefsFan says:
Re Whitlock: he is a braying ass. He is the perfect embodiment of the narcissism, hubris, ignorance, and nastiness that characterize the modern sports media celebrity.

As Bob noted about the sports media in general, this is a guy who never has to answer for the things he gets wrong. If he did he’d be lucky to be writing obits for some rural county paper. All he has to do to keep his cushy job is stir the pot.

And it’s hilarious how Whitlock gets all pissy about Peterson not talking to the “legitimate” media, and in the very next sentence says it doesn’t matter what Peterson has to say. Those grapes tasting a little sour, Big Sexy?

January 5, 2009 - Matt Hoover says:
It’s nice to know that there are still some people in the media who will write honorably. Thanks for the article, Bob.

FloridaMan88 01-05-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 5360163)
I hated Carl the moment he drafted Todd Blackledge...the 5 year plan stuff is BS, but there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

Dictator Carl didn't draft Blackledge... Steadman did.

HemiEd 01-05-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5359575)
Rufus Dawes approves this message.

ROFL

HemiEd 01-05-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5359598)
I still think Peterson made a "5 Year Plan" comment or something similiar.....


How did it get started then?

I for one, remember hearing it. Maybe it was a reporter commenting as to the subject and message of the speech, but I said to myself at the time, "holy shit, win a Super Bowl? How about just giving us a winning season!"


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