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rambleonthruthefog 01-18-2009 03:48 PM
i think thats hard to say. guys in both leagues are amazing athletes. can you compare larry fitz, j peppers, wes welker even, to lebron, kobe and the like. i can't say one way or the other.

Pablo 01-18-2009 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5402526)
Faster than you think. The great majority of people by far and large cannot run a 4.8. Whenever I talk to someone who says they can run a 4.5 or bench 300 or something. I ask them if they want to come with me to my friend who is in strength and agility training. He times 40's for alot of high school and college athletes and develops conditioning programs for them. He said that most high school kids have inflated athletic numbers because they aren't properly timed, don't use correct form on lifts, etc.

Everybody that has came with me has at least ran .2 higher than what they thought they could ran and waaay lower in all compound lifts. People are naturally lie about their athletic talent all the time. I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL

I honestly will extend this offer to anybody who thinks they can run under a 4.65. Although you may just be a great athlete and are not inflating how athletic you are, but I bet 9 out of 10 people that say that run no where near that fast.
Yeah, I could see the first point being true..I don't think my high school football/weight training coach was the most capable and outstanding guy when it came to timing, so I don't have much of an official barometer to gage my personal numbers off from. I could see that.

aturnis 01-18-2009 03:50 PM
It's all relative Gonzo...the difference between you running a 4.8 and a 300 lbs. guy is huge. Much is the difference between your friend, a track guy, running a 4.45 when he is more built for running, and a huge tall and strong receiver doing it. Your point is moot. Have your friend run that when he's packed on another 100 lbs.

CupidStunt 01-18-2009 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5402440)
Definitely. You are correct. The guy in my avatar is an example. Same can be said about those really tall oafs in the NBA that are 7 foot 2 and are slow as molasses. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.
WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.

Pablo 01-18-2009 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5402569)
It's all relative Gonzo...the difference between you running a 4.8 and a 300 lbs. guy is huge. Much is the difference between your friend, a track guy, running a 4.45 when he is more built for running, and a huge tall and strong receiver doing it. Your point is moot. Have your friend run that when he's packed on another 100 lbs.
Yeah..I get that...I suppose the difference between my buddy, who is fast and small and a 6'3" WR that weighs 70 lbs. more running a 4.45 is huge.

aturnis 01-18-2009 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5402526)
I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL
Oh the "Uncle Rico's" of the world.

p.s.
We coulda won state.

aturnis 01-18-2009 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 5402572)
WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.
come on...everyone?

BWillie 01-18-2009 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5402569)
It's all relative Gonzo...the difference between you running a 4.8 and a 300 lbs. guy is huge. Much is the difference between your friend, a track guy, running a 4.45 when he is more built for running, and a huge tall and strong receiver doing it. Your point is moot. Have your friend run that when he's packed on another 100 lbs.
That further illustrates my point. NFL guys are running these fast 40's and jumping through the roof and they have a great deal of mass. NFL players are simply the best athletes in the world. I can't even imagine what kind of athletes they would find it it was more of a world game.

cdcox 01-18-2009 03:56 PM
Set up an obstacle course that emphasizes speed, strength and agility. Take the top 20% performers from each league on the course and average their times. Who would you put your money on?

Or do the same with the decathlon. Give them a year to train. Who do you put your money on?

Mr. Laz 01-18-2009 03:56 PM
dunno ... completely different types of athletes imo

if you are talking running,jumping,cutting .... no contest, it's the NBA

if you are talking about power,durability,leverage .... then it's the NFL


apples to oranges tbh

BWillie 01-18-2009 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 5402572)
WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.
Get a clue? First of all, these guys aren't going to be as strong as most guys in the NFL. Their vertical leaps are going to be up there with some of the tops in the NFL, yes, but they definitely aren't going to be as fast. You could maybe put LeBron in there as potentially faster than the other guys but to say these 3 guys would completely blow away everyone in the NFL is moronic.

The Franchise 01-18-2009 03:58 PM
Can the "athletes" in the NBA take a crushing hit to the ribs.....and then get back up and go back out there and catch a TD?

BWillie 01-18-2009 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5402610)
dunno ... completely different types of athletes imo

if you are talking running,jumping,cutting .... no contest, it's the NBA

if you are talking about power,durability,leverage .... then it's the NFL


apples to oranges tbh
How is running and jumping no contest the NBA? So you think Kobe Bryant could beat Calvin Johnson in a race? What about Chris Paul versus Randy Moss? No way.

I give the edge to NBA in endurance, length, and maybe some agility drills only.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2009 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5402638)
How is running and jumping no contest the NBA? So you think Kobe Bryant could beat Calvin Johnson in a race? What about Chris Paul versus Randy Moss? No way.

I give the edge to NBA in endurance, length, and maybe some agility drills only.
whatever floats you boat, man


peace

CupidStunt 01-18-2009 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5402628)
Get a clue? First of all, these guys aren't going to be as strong as most guys in the NFL. Their vertical leaps are going to be up there with some of the tops in the NFL, yes, but they definitely aren't going to be as fast. You could maybe put LeBron in there as potentially faster than the other guys but to say these 3 guys would completely blow away everyone in the NFL is moronic.
You just don't seem to understand what athleticism actually IS.

LeBron James is quite easily a better athlete than any active player in the NFL. Period.


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