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Reerun_KC 01-18-2009 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 5403484)
Unless you think the exception proves the rule...

Warner has been to the SB 3 times now and been league MVP twice.
Brady has been to how many Super Bowls as a 6th round pick.

The point is that a 1st round pick is not a guarantee either way and I am so tired of being told the only way the Chiefs can get there is if they draft someone in the 3rd spot this year. I am sure we can trade names, etc all day but the point remains the same that this year we have an undrafted QB going to the Super Bowl for the third time in his career and last year we had a 6th round QB go for the 4th (?) time in his career. Nothing is written in stone the day these guys are drafted.
True, but I am sick and tired of not trying to get there because we wont draft a QB and build a team around him.

I am not saying that is is a guarantee if we draft a 1st round QB, but the chances are greater than recycling QB's as we have over the last 20 years...

Ebolapox 01-18-2009 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 5403484)
Unless you think the exception proves the rule...

Warner has been to the SB 3 times now and been league MVP twice.
Brady has been to how many Super Bowls as a 6th round pick.

The point is that a 1st round pick is not a guarantee either way and I am so tired of being told the only way the Chiefs can get there is if they draft someone in the 3rd spot this year. I am sure we can trade names, etc all day but the point remains the same that this year we have an undrafted QB going to the Super Bowl for the third time in his career and last year we had a 6th round QB go for the 4th (?) time in his career. Nothing is written in stone the day these guys are drafted.
the problem is that, by and large, there is NO PROVEN formula for getting that QB.

aside from montana and brady (and if he wins, maybe warner), statistics show that the best bet is drafting and developing a first round QB. (aka, don't throw him to the wolves, get a guy to groom him/help him with film study, have a decent o-line in front of him, give him a few targets, develop an offensive scheme around his talents)

milkman 01-18-2009 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 5403484)
Unless you think the exception proves the rule...

Warner has been to the SB 3 times now and been league MVP twice.
Brady has been to how many Super Bowls as a 6th round pick.

The point is that a 1st round pick is not a guarantee either way and I am so tired of being told the only way the Chiefs can get there is if they draft someone in the 3rd spot this year. I am sure we can trade names, etc all day but the point remains the same that this year we have an undrafted QB going to the Super Bowl for the third time in his career and last year we had a 6th round QB go for the 4th (?) time in his career. Nothing is written in stone the day these guys are drafted.
Way to put words in people's mouths.

No one has said it's the "only" way.

Hammock Parties 01-18-2009 05:52 PM
I want to see him inducted just to hear him say THANKYOU JESUUUUUUUUUUUUUS one last time. It's become a running joke.

Brock 01-18-2009 05:53 PM
The biggest comeback player I've ever seen. Unfreakingbelieveable.

tk13 01-18-2009 05:53 PM
The funny thing about most of this decade is, you look at the Super Bowl QB's... they all seem to either be high 1st round guys or nobodies who were 6th round or later or picked up off the scrapheap. There is very little in-between.

Ebolapox 01-18-2009 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5403550)
The funny thing about most of this decade is, you look at the Super Bowl QB's... they all seem to either be high 1st round guys or nobodies who were 6th round or later or picked up off the scrapheap. There is very little in-between.
yep. been an interesting last ten years or so QB wise.

teedubya 01-18-2009 06:00 PM
I stated the exact same thing in the game thread.

Dave Lane 01-18-2009 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5403410)
The lord up above likes Warner better than he likes McNabb.
So given Warner's after winning comments should McNabbs be like this??

"Jesus ****ed me man!! I mean he jammed it up my ass and broke it off!!"

I mean in the interest of equal time I thought this would have to be the logical response :)

Dave

greyhoodie 01-18-2009 06:07 PM
win in two weeks and he should get in, first ballot will depend on who else is on the list that year.

kstater 01-18-2009 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5403615)
So given Warner's after winning comments should McNabbs be like this??

"Jesus ****ed me man!! I mean he jammed it up my ass and broke it off!!"

I mean in the interest of equal time I thought this would have to be the logical response :)

Dave
:LOL:

milkman 01-18-2009 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5403615)
So given Warner's after winning comments should McNabbs be like this??

"Jesus ****ed me man!! I mean he jammed it up my ass and broke it off!!"

I mean in the interest of equal time I thought this would have to be the logical response :)

Dave
Sounds good to me.

Basileus777 01-18-2009 06:24 PM
Well he still doesn't have the career numbers, but his other accolades will get in him. I don't know if he get in first ballot though.

Ultra Peanut 01-18-2009 06:28 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2uzff4j.jpg

Spicy McHaggis 01-18-2009 06:30 PM
Agreed. He played himself in today.

Some people might moan about the Cardinals in the Super Bowl but I'm actually really looking forward to seeing guys like Fitzgerald on the biggest stage.


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