Really?????????? How do you know that? Both were considered raw talents, and had eye popping measurables. Coupled with Barwin's immediate growth as a pass rusher( pass rushing technique) and with the kids athleticism the sky's the limit. I remember Hamas was slobbering on Gholston's knob about the same issues, but Barwin is apt study unlike Gholston.

Del Rio has got to be hanging by a thread. The Jags should pick who ever gives them immediate help.

You do realize this is Kiper saying Crabtree compares to Johnson/Fitzgerald, and not Coogs don't you?

I know. Kiper's and idiot!

FFS, this shit is reeruned.

Vernon Gholston had 22.5 sacks in two years and he had a phenomenal combine. It's not his fault his dumbass, since-fired coach wanted to make him a read and react linebacker instead of a downhill killer while he buried him behind two vets.

Perhaps we should all bury Dorsey for being similarly misused.

If they would get the 12 and 18 with a trade back with denver or someother tradeback and get in the 15 or lower range and take Barwin i will be pissed. Clint Sintim would be a better reach at that point, a late first rounder is his range. Barwin is probably a 3rd round talent that with so much pub has moved up to a 2nd and maybe a late first. Sintim could go anywhere from 23 to the pats or a bit higher.

Huh-huh, not making a #6 pick a passrushing force, because they suddenly wanted him to dropback in coverage. Dude, it seems like he wasn't a good student hell,with the money in his pocket I would have him trot along the line with the apocalyptic sign"The End is Near" .

Still my point stands, and Barwin had 11 sacks this year so lets put production to rest.

Did you overdose on ****tardery? Do you even know what kind of scheme Mangini ran and why that might be a problem?

Crabtree fellas, Crabtree. If we stay at #3. Crabtree should be the pick. Not Monroe. Not Curry. Not Orakpo. Crabtree.

Hamas, will you accept a $20 bet Barwin goes in the first(doesn't in your case)?

It use to be, if you had an extra LT you could rape a trade partner. I guess now that the Chiefs finally got Roaf replaced, they're a dime a dozen.

Please no, I'd rather have Heyward-Bey if you want a WR.

He reminds me alot of Alvin Harper, which would be the perfect compliment to Bowe.

Why? The guy doesn't do anything well other than run a good 40 in shorts.

That is completely untrue, are you aware that he was playing for a team that he was literally the only good offensive player for?

His numbers are very respectable for having nothing around him.

2005 RS - - - -
2006 13 45 694 15.4 5
2007 13 51 786 15.4 3
2008 12 42 609 14.5 5
Totals 38 138 2,089 15.1 13

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