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htismaqe 04-22-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5693953)
Dude its just me and you on the Medlock thing. Of course if I remember back to then we were the only ones who pimped him then.

There's more, like DaKCManAP.

Chiefnj2 04-22-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5693872)
No, he wasn't.

Medlock led the entire NCAA in kicking accuracy, especially from long range.

Crosby had alot of long ATTEMPTS, but he was horribly streaky.

One guy kicked in nice weather and the other in Colorado.

KCrockaholic 04-22-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5694012)
They weren't wrong about his talent. He has a mental illness that nobody knew about at the time.

Thats a terrible excuse. Trust me NFL personel people would know if Medlock was mental sick. They were wrong because he cant produce in the NFL. So why did he do so well in NCAA but then the second he gets drafted sucks in the NFL. Where was his illness when he was in college.

milkman 04-22-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5692998)
Crosby was by far the better kicker. I was pissed when we passed him to take Medlock. The teams that thought medlock was good where all stupid. Who seriously thought a black kicker was worth being drafted? Thats like a white cornerback being taking in the 2nd round.

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5693911)
Thats nice. It just proves they where wrong.

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5694094)
Thats a terrible excuse. Trust me NFL personel people would know if Medlock was mental sick. They where wrong because he cant produce in the NFL. So why did he do so well in NCAA but then the second he gets drafted sucks in the NFL. Where was his illness when he was in college.

How does a man get through life, hell how does he get out of first grade, if he doesn't know the difference between "where" and "were"?

KCrockaholic 04-22-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5694165)
How does a man get through life, hell how does he get out of first grade, if he doesn't know the difference between "where" and "were"?

I know. I dont usually pay attention when I type it. Its a habit.

Ill fix them just for you. ;)

htismaqe 04-22-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5694094)
Thats a terrible excuse. Trust me NFL personel people would know if Medlock was mental sick. They were wrong because he cant produce in the NFL. So why did he do so well in NCAA but then the second he gets drafted sucks in the NFL. Where was his illness when he was in college.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

A couple of people here have inside sources - Medlock is clinically sick.

Mental illnesses can often have acute onsets. He IS sick and nobody knew about it before the draft. It's a fact.

KCrockaholic 04-22-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5694825)
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

A couple of people here have inside sources - Medlock is clinically sick.

Mental illnesses can often have acute onsets. He IS sick and nobody knew about it before the draft. It's a fact.

That still doesnt explain how he went from great in college to sucky in his short stint in the NFL. I think your just trying to find any excuse possible to show that you werent "wrong". Have you ever been wrong before in your life? If so where you able to admit it?

htismaqe 04-22-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5695008)
That still doesnt explain how he went from great in college to sucky in his short stint in the NFL. I think your just trying to find any excuse possible to show that you werent "wrong". Have you ever been wrong before in your life? If so where you able to admit it?

He went from great in college to sucky in a short stint because the pressure of the NFL (or something similar) triggered his disease.

It doesn't have anything to do with me being wrong - I'm wrong ALOT and I will readily admit it when I am.

I have to talked to people on this board that know Medlock and are very familiar with his situation - he is SICK and he will likely never play football, or do anything that requires him to be in the public eye, ever again.

And again, none of this HINDISIGHT changes the fact that, heading into that draft, Medlock was the general consensus #1 kicker available.

htismaqe 04-22-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5695008)
That still doesnt explain how he went from great in college to sucky in his short stint in the NFL. I think your just trying to find any excuse possible to show that you werent "wrong". Have you ever been wrong before in your life? If so where you able to admit it?

Let me put it this way:

Medlock was considered by most to be the "sure thing" while Crosby was considered to be the "boom or bust" prospect.

If nothing else, the way it turned out is yet another example of why playing it safe hardly ever pays off, and alot of times actually turns out the opposite of the way you expected.

I was obviously guilty of thinking "safe" myself and therefore, this an admission that I was wrong.

rad 04-22-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5695229)
Let me put it this way:

Medlock was considered by most to be the "sure thing" while Crosby was considered to be the "boom or bust" prospect.

If nothing else, the way it turned out is yet another example of why playing it safe hardly ever pays off, and alot of times actually turns out the opposite of the way you expected.

I was obviously guilty of thinking "safe" myself and therefore, this an admission that I was wrong.

You and I went back and forth over the Medlock thing in the Draft day thread right after he was drafted.......I thought it was a bad pick and you argued that a solid kicker is better than a ST LB or whatever......

Dayze 04-22-2009 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=Amnorix;5690776]


A year or two ago, I heard Bill Belichick say that in the last two weeks before the draft his staff is focusing on "horizontal stacks" (i.e., prospects with the same grade but different positions) and ranking them.
John


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I seriously dobut Carl ever thought of that. I'm not even kidding.

htismaqe 04-22-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rad (Post 5695323)
You and I went back and forth over the Medlock thing in the Draft day thread right after he was drafted.......I thought it was a bad pick and you argued that a solid kicker is better than a ST LB or whatever......

And they are. A solid kicker scores points. A ST LB doesn't.

But of course, it doesn't matter if the kicker isn't SOLID, and Medlock just flat-out sucked. :thumb:

SBK 04-22-2009 08:12 PM

How did I miss the discussions long ago about Medlock being sick in the head? What's he, bipolar or something, or does he have the thing Ricky Williams did?

Feel bad for him now.

the Talking Can 04-23-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5695748)
How did I miss the discussions long ago about Medlock being sick in the head? What's he, bipolar or something, or does he have the thing Ricky Williams did?

Feel bad for him now.

turned out he was reeruned.....he showed up for a draft workout in a short bus, but no one noticed because he got dropped off on the corner and walked to the stadium.....

KCrockaholic 04-23-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5696354)
turned out he was reeruned.....he showed up for a draft workout in a short bus, but no one noticed because he got dropped off on the corner and walked to the stadium.....

ROFL

only problem is, I can picture that.


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