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DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5973393)
Why? maybe they didn't want to start with a rookie. If they did why even bother with Cassel?

What other legit option was there?

Thigpen and/or Croyle don't fit this description.

Sanchez was a great prospect. I'm frankly amazed that this isn't a consensus opinion on here. This doesn't mean he'll excel in the league, but it's pretty difficult to question the kid's skill set and intangibles.

Mecca 08-14-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5973398)
What other legit option was there?

Thigpen and/or Croyle don't fit this description.

Sanchez was a great prospect. I'm frankly amazed that this isn't a consensus opinion on here. This doesn't mean he'll excel in the league, but it's pretty difficult to question the kid's skill set and intangibles.

After starting 1 young QB and having it result in horrible things it seems a portion of our fan base had had enough of that and was ready to go back to vets.

milkman 08-14-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5973398)
What other legit option was there?

Thigpen and/or Croyle don't fit this description.

Sanchez was a great prospect. I'm frankly amazed that this isn't a consensus opinion on here. This doesn't mean he'll excel in the league, but it's pretty difficult to question the kid's skill set and intangibles.

It's because Messier didn't think Sanchez was any good, so if he didn't think he was good, surley Pioli and Haley thought the same.

DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5973400)
After starting 1 young QB and having it result in horrible things it seems a portion of our fan base had had enough of that and was ready to go back to vets.

Who was this young QB? Does Croyle qualify? Don't you have to play at least one full game to be classified as a QB?

Seriously, anyone who couldn't see that the Croyle experiment was going to fail was either Herm or a homer.

Brodie has always been hurt. HS, college, his first training camp as a n00b. WTF else did you need for evidence?

Mecca 08-14-2009 07:46 PM

In case no one has seen it...

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You might want to turn that down to avoid the really annoying fans.

Mecca 08-14-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5973406)
Who was this young QB? Does Croyle qualify? Don't you have to play at least one full game to be classified as a QB?

Seriously, anyone who couldn't see that the Croyle experiment was going to fail was either Herm or a homer.

Brodie has always been hurt. HS, college, his first training camp as a n00b. WTF else did you need for evidence?

Um dude saying Brodie Croyle was injury prone and destined to fail because he was made of glass caused people to freak out.

DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5973403)
It's because Messier didn't think Sanchez was any good, so if he didn't think he was good, surley Pioli and Haley thought the same.

I completely understand someone wanting to go in a different direction and not take Sanchez. Cool. Pioli thought the same thing, obviously.

But to deny Sanchez's high quality as a prospect is pretty ridiculous.

Messier 08-14-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5973398)
What other legit option was there?

Thigpen and/or Croyle don't fit this description.

Sanchez was a great prospect. I'm frankly amazed that this isn't a consensus opinion on here. This doesn't mean he'll excel in the league, but it's pretty difficult to question the kid's skill set and intangibles.

I don't know, a trade? I'm not really saying I know what they would have done, all I'm saying is taking Sanchez wasn't necessarily their back up plan, and therefore those two shouldn't be automatically linked.

DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:48 PM

Thigpen would make that throw 1 out of every 10 tries.

Messier 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5973403)
It's because Messier didn't think Sanchez was any good, so if he didn't think he was good, surley Pioli and Haley thought the same.

I don't know if Sanchez will be good. Do you know Pioli and Haley had him next in line if they couldn't get Cassel?

Mecca 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5973411)
I don't know, a trade? I'm not really saying I know what they would have done, all I'm saying is taking Sanchez wasn't necessarily their back up plan, and therefore those two shouldn't be automatically linked.

Those 3 QB's at the top will forever be linked....for the Lions it's all 3...for the Chiefs it's 2 and for the Jets it's this guy is it or it didn't work out.

If Sanchez ends up being the guy that's the best both Chiefs and Lions fans will talk about the blunder of 09.

Mecca 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5973413)
I don't know if Sanchez will be good. Do you know Pioli and Haley had him next in line if they couldn't get Cassel?

I would certainly hope so...

DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5973411)
I don't know, a trade? I'm not really saying I know what they would have done, all I'm saying is taking Sanchez wasn't necessarily their back up plan, and therefore those two shouldn't be automatically linked.

Passing on a big prospect is always of note for every team. As Mecca mentioned, Detroit and St. Louis fans will have the very same discussions if some player who went just a few picks later, and thus SHOULD have been on everyone's radar, turns into a stud.

It's just the nature of the draft. It's fun to second guess and play the what if game. Everyone knows who the top prospects are; it's no secret that Stafford and Sanchez were studs coming out of college.

Mr. Arrowhead 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5973332)
Wait a minute. We will NOT know soon. That's not fair to either QB. Based on that thinking Leinhart and Young were great picks and Mario Williams was a colossal mistake.
Try to give it more than 10 minutes before declaring a victor.
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LOL i mean a 2 or 3 years

DeezNutz 08-14-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 5973413)
I don't know if Sanchez will be good. Do you know Pioli and Haley had him next in line if they couldn't get Cassel?

If they didn't at least seriously discuss the possibility of drafting Sanchez, our entire FO should have been fired yesterday.


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