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Micjones 09-28-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120617)
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

We're led into believing this team is gonna turn it around. The way they sell themselves to the fans leading them into believing that what they are doing is "the right way" when clearly its not. it just leads to the same old, losses. As a fan you expect to see good things , you're hoping that it'll turn around but it doesn't.

You know the way they operate is not gonna build a winner, but yet you expect a winner. They do the same thing, leading you to believe it is right, and you expect and hope for a winner. That's insanity my friend.

Bunch of ****n a**holes they are.

Having a conniption every week after a loss when you know the team isn't very good can't be defined as insanity?

Dartgod 09-28-2009 05:29 PM

LMAO at the people here, ready to throw in the towel on a front office three games into their first season.

****ing classic...

Micjones 09-28-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 6120731)
LMAO at the people here, ready to throw in the towel on a front office three games into their first season.

****ing classic...

And somehow despite all of the outrage last week some of our dear friends here at CP were STILL able to take it to another level last night.

RedThat 09-28-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6120641)
How do you know this? You say you're no psychic, but you certainly are presenting yourself as having all the facts when we are 3 games into the first year of the new regime.

Do I think Pioli is going to build a consistent winner? Who the hell knows. His moves didn't thrill me this off-season, but I'd rather take a year to evaluate an entire operation than to blow money needlessly. But there were few free agents that were going to bridge the talent gap we had going into this season.

You can be mad he didn't address things, but saying that we will never be good, it's the same old shit, is complete and utter nonsense.

There is nothing about this season that reminds of me of a Carl Peterson team.

Are we terrible? Yes. But I really think some would rather just be 8-8 with a few free agent additions than really weeding through this roster.

If Pioli sucks in a year and 4 months from now, you can say it's much the same, but it sounds like you expected Pioli to fix the mistakes made over an entire decade over one off-season. Not possible.

The Bad Guy,

I want you to understand I have nothing against Pioli. I don't think it's his fault mainly because I believe football operations really boils down to who owns the team. Im not a big fan of Clark Hunt. I hate to admit it, but, I don't have faith in the guy.

Look, all Im trying to say is the philosophy and mentality at Arrowhead hasn't changed. Just because the Chiefs have a new regime it doesn't equate to anything. The owner ultimately calls the shots in the end.

You can't build a team with scrubs? Its that simple. When you see the Chiefs trying to upgrade a position they're weak at with a sh*t player. It makes you kinda wonder. I am mad you know why? Because it really seems like this is a franchise that is not dedicated to winning. When you're weak at a position, the proper thing to do is go out and get yourself a player who is better then the player you currently have. It's that simple. Not replace a scrub with another scrub? Such is the case when they replaced McIntosh with Ndukwe. Thats just an example of what Im talking about.

It doesn't take a genious to figure this out. When "GOOD" players are available in FA they act passive all the time. There is no excuse. They have chances, instead they sign 2nd, 3rd tier players, we've seen it with Herm and now were seeing it with pioli. Again, this philosophy and mentality is the reason why they are losers.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6120721)
Who are the players you would have brought in?

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'Hamas' Jenkins 09-28-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6120775)
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Can I answer this?

RedThat 09-28-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6120721)
Who are the players you would have brought in?

Don't try to make a fool out of me. Go ask yourself that question.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120781)
Don't try to make a fool out of me. Go ask yourself that question.

I don't really have to try to make a fool out of you, unless you're admitting you can't answer the question intelligently.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6120779)
Can I answer this?

I don't mind if you do. I just don't think the thread starter can. After you do, I'm sure he'll quote your post and say "this" or something equally unoriginal.

RedThat 09-28-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6120785)
I don't really have to try to make a fool out of you, unless you're admitting you can't answer the question intelligently.

I don't want to answer that question.

Because I have a feeling that if I did you'd flip it back in my face and try to look for ways to make me feel stupid. I know you're type bud.

Simplex3 09-28-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120713)
Yes they did.

What difference does it make when you replace Damion McIntosh with Ndukwe? All you're doing is getting rid of a junk and replacing that position with another junk.

One is a vet at the end of his career and one is young and *may* have an upside. I believe he's also cheaper.

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120713)
What difference does it make when you gid rid of Donnie Edwards and replace him with Mike Vrabel? Both old aging players clearly on the verge of being at the end of their football careers.

One isn't as old as the other and knows the new defensive scheme. He's also been healthy.

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120713)
What difference does it make when you replace Jeff Webb with Terrence Copper? What difference does it make when you sign Mike Goff and replace Adrian Jones?

Not much. Certainly wasn't a step backwards.

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120713)
Regardless the moves are the same. You replace one scrap with another. Replace one cheap with another cheap. And you replace one old with another old. I thought positions are suposed to be upgraded? In the Chiefs case its not. Like I said, earlier, you cant expect to have a good football team when you try to create it with scrubs. If you don't have talent you aint winning its that simple, but yet were being told this is the "right way." this is the remedy of a team that will be 3-13.

Same philosophy, same mentality and thats why they will continue to suck because they ain't gonna change the way they operate.

You should send your resume to Clark Hunt. He probably needs a good laugh.

Simplex3 09-28-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6120725)
Trading for a backup QB from a "dynasty"? Check
Passing on developing a franchise QB in the draft? Check
Working with a good ole boy network? Check.

When you're trying to get things done at work I can assume you never work with the same supplier/subcontractor/vendor twice.

Brock 09-28-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120800)
I don't want to answer that question.

Because I have a feeling that if I did you'd flip it back in my face and try to look for ways to make me feel stupid. I know you're type bud.

You can't answer the question. I know your type too. ==> :drool:

Simplex3 09-28-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120760)
The Bad Guy,

I want you to understand I have nothing against Pioli. I don't think it's his fault mainly because I believe football operations really boils down to who owns the team. Im not a big fan of Clark Hunt. I hate to admit it, but, I don't have faith in the guy.

Then you need to change allegiances, because the chances of Clark selling are near 0.

Simplex3 09-28-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6120800)
I don't want to answer that question.

Because I have a feeling that if I did you'd flip it back in my face and try to look for ways to make me feel stupid. I know you're type bud.

Oh, sweet irony...


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