I agree with all of your above points but not this. We still have guys on our team who just can't do it mentally. Peyton Hillis is a good example. He barely sees the field this year because he's screwed up so much. On the other end of the spectrum is a guy like Dawkins. He's 36 years old and still playing at a high level. In fact he charges up the entire D with his attitude.

Other than that-you can see when guys aren't giving their best effort. You can see by their body language and it shows up in their play. It becomes obvious as a game wears on and it shows up in critical situations.

True... but what team can get its ass kicked all game long & then have a bad, game-losing pass get tipped into the hands of its errant receiver for the win? What team can then have yet another ball tipped, tipped & juggled for another miraculous game-winner? What team can manage only one (1) real offensive TD against a division opponent, & yet end up with 34 points? Only the Broncos. Because God is on their side.

And yet He, in His wisdom, always seems to pull the rug out from under them in the post-season. Oh sure - he gave them two fleeting moments in NFL history when HorseFace led the team. But since then He has denied them the Prize. Only the truth of the Bronco Late Season Slide remains to keep the faith within me.

Its obvious the Chiefs would be 6-0 and the Broncos would be 1-5
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Depends on whether you believe in the Trinity or not, I guess.

The Broncos would still have Cutler

It's because you are trying to rationalize away as many points as you possibly can. Stokely made that catch, the ball broke the plane while he had possession. They also kicked FG's, and they count. And, by the way, if you take away all the kicks returned for TD's in tonight's game...we still win 20-16.

Shocking. I apparently struck a nerve with one of you.

The 1997/1998 stuff was obviously a deal with the devil that was made behind God's back. I suspect that's the situation now, too. It's not that God loves the Broncos, it's that he's not going to watch them if some other game is on, so he's not paying attention to them right now. Any day God is going to pick up the sports page, see the standings, and say, "What the - ?" and the next day there'll be lightning strikes all over the Broncos' practice facility.

Then that makes Peyton Hillis not a good player. It's that simple. I agree that it has to do with his attitude, endurence, and work ethic, but that makes him not a good player.

What I'm arguing about is this other reeruned junk I hear from ESPN about guys like Roethlisberger. Great QB, no doubt. Know why he "finishes" games? Because he takes his time getting used to the pace of the defense. He's quick-thinking, strong, and big. He's a good QB. It's not because he "knows" how to win games. The fact that he has as many championships as he does versus a guy like Drew Brees is purely based on the talent around him and what the coaches do to put him in a position to win. He's a good enough player that he takes those situations and converts more often than not.

Then there are some players who are simply lucky. Steve Kerr in the NBA is the best example I can think of. Does he know how to win championships or was he lucky enough to play alongside Jordan and Duncan, two of the best players in NBA history?

The sooner, the better... please.

I like that! I like the way you preach the Word! That quote is what I'll take from this miserable night...

Rain Man 6190130: Any day God is going to pick up the sports page, see the standings, and say, "What the - ?" and the next day there'll be lightning strikes all over the Broncos' practice facility.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the sportscasters using catchphrases and buzzwords. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt if they have impressed me in the past, like Jaworski for instance. I just shake my head and turn the channel if it's somebody like Matt Millen. Hillis though, he did very well last year and now he's doing poorly. It's mental, and partly McD's system. He still has the same skill set.

Isn't it obvious?

We ARE purgatory. 8-8 for eternity.

Thats easy!

Chiefs would be 6-0

Denver would be 1-5

Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal and Elvis Dummerville would have all been cut for not doing it the "Haley Way"

The Broncos are a mirage. Write it down. They will fold down the stretch.