Sales might just go up on these Toyota cars, who wouldn't want a free pass for speeding.

Now you are just being stupid, but that is normal.

Do you remember how the media treated the Explorer/Firstone rollover issue? It was non stop coverage. Have they done the same with this Toyota deal. No.

End of story. Do you have anything to add? I didn't think so, have some rice.

I think it is called dumbassery

Many manufacturers have had similar "problems"


Audi
Jeep
Chrysler
Ford
GM

Whoops!

Link?

The Explorer issue was totally different. those vehicles were unstable at speed and ford knew about it.

My brother had a blowout in an explorer on the freeway and that ****ing piece of garbage flipped about 10 times. He was medivaced to the hospital and was eventually paid off to shut up.

totally different set of circumstances.

Gee, I wonder why the media jumped all over the Explorer Firestone thing. Could it be because 100-200 people died?

Why is that different? Please explain.

You should click some of the links, and read of the information.

Seriously, people are being killed on this deal, it is being deflected as a floor mat issue.
Owners that have had the issue, and lived to tell about it, are insisting that Toyota is wrong about the floor mats.

This page has a good synopsys of all the reported issues It is more widespread than I originally posted, but Again I believe this is more Human error than anything else.

http://www.antony-anderson.com/cruis...nks.html#BUICK

Audi - BMW - Buick - Chrysler - Daewoo - Ford - General Motors - Honda - Jaguar - Land Rover - Mercedes - Mitsubishi - Nissan - Renault - Toyota - Toyota/Lexus - Volvo

I believe it is different because EVERY SINGLE EXPLORER was inherently unstable, it was a basic design issue not a defect of some sort.

Ford engineers told management the Explorer was unstable and had major handling flaws long before the first Explorer came off the assembly line, but Ford’s decision makers smelled big profits from the “First Mover” market position that the Explorer would give them.

I also think that many of the unintended acceleration issues were simple operator error probably not all of them, but many. Also the unintended acceleration has been used as an excuse for accidents in almost every make of vehicle....se human error.

Ive seen two different fatalities accidents and several same types of blow out\rollover accidents with a Ford Explorer. Even had a son as a passenger in one, that rolled over. No way I would have one nor let my family ride in one again.

My understanding of the Explorer / Firestone issue was that the Explorer was an SUV, as in designed for off-road not as an Indy car.
If the people buying SUV’s in the early ‘90’s had bought minivans or sedans instead most probably wouldn’t even know that the Explorer came with Firestone tires.

Ha. I'd like to see an explorer anywhere off of pavement.

Interesting link, thanks. It seems like most of those, prior to the "drive by wire," are cruise control issues, or at least many were.

Actually, it was proven that the Explorer was much less prone to issues when they installed Good Year tires. http://www.fordexplorerrollover.com/...es/Default.cfm
IIRC Firestone refuted all of this claiming owner negligence on under inflation etc. etc.

It will be interesting to see how this Toyota issue ends up.
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