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BossChief 11-10-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6250480)
Dwayne Bowe is a beast but I think they will trade him.

I doubt it, Haley ha spoken highly of him and it would likely be partially his call.

I can see them letting Flowers and Carr move on though. NE never valued corners and usually let them go when their contracts came up.

That will be the meltdown.

pr_capone 11-10-2009 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6250496)
I think Cassel is ridiculously gun shy, this is a bad team if he throws a pick going for a big play so be it.

But he plays like we have a great defense and as long as he doesn't **** up we might win, I don't want a QB like that.

That is where I disagree with you.

I see it as he plays knowing we have shit for D. We can't afford turnovers. This defense can't stop anyone. By controlling the ball and taking sacks we are at the very minimum controlling field position.

Again, though I don't believe Cassel will be the next Montana or Elway, I believe he will do much better next season assuming we actually address the o-line.

BossChief 11-10-2009 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6250496)
I think Cassel is ridiculously gun shy, this is a bad team if he throws a pick going for a big play so be it.

But he plays like we have a great defense and as long as he doesn't **** up we might win, I don't want a QB like that.

Me neither, even Peyton Manning threw a shit ton of picks because he truste his arm enough to try.

Id rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

Mecca 11-10-2009 01:47 AM

Look even if you think we have no time to go down the field at all, throw the short passes to Bowe then, how hard is that?

He is the only player we have on offense you do whatever you can to feed him the ball.

Mecca 11-10-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 6250503)
That is where I disagree with you.

I see it as he plays knowing we have shit for D. We can't afford turnovers. This defense can't stop anyone. By controlling the ball and taking sacks we are at the very minimum controlling field position.

Again, though I don't believe Cassel will be the next Montana or Elway, I believe he will do much better next season assuming we actually address the o-line.

See I think that's ass backwards, playing this way and being coached this way is how you ruin QB's.

When you are on a bad team you take chances to make plays, Cassel plays like he's a game manager of a 90s Chiefs team.

BossChief 11-10-2009 01:50 AM

Whitlock should tell Haley to visit this board!

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-10-2009 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6250504)
Me neither, even Peyton Manning threw a shit ton of picks because he truste his arm enough to try.

Id rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

:clap:

Mecca 11-10-2009 01:52 AM

Matt Cassel won't even attempt a throw unless the guy has a huge gap of separation that is all I need to know about what he's thinking.

He's a game manager QB who doesn't want to make mistakes. This is suppose to be our franchise?

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-10-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6250475)
A 27 year old does not get the same margin of error as a rookie, if we're going to treat him that way this is already a loser because by the time he's any good he'll be 32.

What was the sales pitch by the Cassholes again? Oh yeah; experience!

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6250484)
No what i'm saying is exactly what you pointed out. Bowe isn't of the Moss/Welker ilk.

God help this franchise.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6250500)
I doubt it, Haley ha spoken highly of him and it would likely be partially his call.

I can see them letting Flowers and Carr move on though. NE never valued corners and usually let them go when their contracts came up.

That will be the meltdown.

That's my breaking point, right there. There is no turning back for Pioli at that point. You think I'm an asshole to him now?
Oh my god you can't even BEGIN to imagine what I'm capable of if he ****s that up.

Micjones 11-10-2009 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6250438)
You dumb sonofabitch, TD, Completion %, and INT #s will be inflated when 5 of your TDs are in garbage time

Flacco has 2, Ryan has 1, Rivers has 3.
This is not unique to Cassel. QB's benefit from "garbage time" situations all over the league.

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and you always look to check down if the first option is covered
He has time to go through his reads with this God-awful line protecting him?

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He also came nowhere near hitting Chambers in stride you ****ing dipshit.
Chambers made a negligible adjustment to catch that ball.
To a ball thrown to the middle of the field (where any good deep ball should be placed in that situation).

BossChief 11-10-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6250519)
What was the sales pitch by the Cassholes again? Oh yeah; experience!



God help this franchise.



That's my breaking point, right there. There is no turning back for Pioli at that point. You think I'm an asshole to him now?
Oh my god you can't even BEGIN to imagine what I'm capable of if he ****s that up.

Asante Samuel

or

Ty Law

how does he play it with Flowers and Carr?

iirc Carr is only signed till the end of next year.

Flowers the next.

I may be wrong.

Titty Meat 11-10-2009 02:05 AM

Brandon Carr sucks anyways

Hammock Parties 11-10-2009 02:05 AM

I don't think either of them will command a huge contract.

BossChief 11-10-2009 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6250529)
Brandon Carr sucks anyways

:eek:

Mecca 11-10-2009 02:09 AM

If he plays alot of Madden he probably does think they suck, the Chiefs CB's are useless on that game.


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