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Mecca 04-12-2010 04:06 PM

You should probably be aware that Gaither when asked about this emphatically stated he is a LT, that's what he is and he's not moving.

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6668819)
I figure we should react the same way you would if someone else posted something this stupid.

Imitation is the highest fourm of flattery.

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 04:25 PM

So your saying if Berry is rated higher you owouldn't sign a guy like Adams for a year and draft a RT and a guard in the draft?

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6668766)
Really? I will never understand how you guys think the one position that separates a winning season from a losing season is safety. Safety isn't even the most important position on the defense let alone an entire team.

Will Berry be good? Yes, he will be a starter in this league. Will he be a superstar? Who knows. Will he have a HUGE impact for the team he plays for? Not many safety's do, so his chances of that are slim, he has the tools to take advantage of those chances, but there's a lot working against him.

Ed Reed and Troy Polamlu say hello.

BigMeatballDave 04-12-2010 04:41 PM

Wow. What a stupid thread. The Redskins just invested a 1st and possibly a 3rd in an aging QB. Their new HC is a offensive guy. I just don't see them taking anything other than a LT at 4, save trading down.
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T-post Tom 04-12-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6668966)
Wow. What a stupid thread. The Redskins just invested a 1st and possibly a 3rd in an aging QB. Their new HC is a offensive guy. I just don't see them taking anything other than a LT at 4, save trading down.
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This. Okung if he's there. Bank it.

Farzin 04-12-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6668706)
What happens if Berry and Suh are available to us? who do you pick

The world is ending before 2012 if both players are available with the fifth pick.

Saccopoo 04-12-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6668707)
And how would the Redskins really win? By protecting their stud QB.

Do you realize how many positions the Redskins need on the line?

They need to get 3, yes, 3 starters out of this draft for their OL.

Wow...that sounds eerily familiar...dejavu? No? Maybe it's just the red jerseys...

Pioli Zombie 04-12-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6668708)
Berry.

Suh is not playing NT.

Yeah, God forbid you change your scheme to draft a potential Hall of Famer.
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The Bad Guy 04-12-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6669050)
Yeah, God forbid you change your scheme to draft a potential Hall of Famer.
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God forbid you actually deal with reality.

The Bad Guy 04-12-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6669033)
Wow...that sounds eerily familiar...dejavu? No? Maybe it's just the red jerseys...

Similar how? The Chiefs have pieces on the line. I'm sorry that you are such a ****ing idiot that you can't recognize that.

The Redskins have nothing except Casey Rabach.

Mecca 04-12-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6669060)
Similar how? The Chiefs have pieces on the line. I'm sorry that you are such a ****ing idiot that you can't recognize that.

The Redskins have nothing except Casey Rabach.

The guy from Under Siege?

Saccopoo 04-12-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6668938)
Ed Reed and Troy Polamlu say hello.

Ed Reed was selected at #24 and Polamalu at #16. And they are the best of their generation. Selected by teams who had most of the other key roster spots filled and could take a chance on using a first round pick on a safety. It's what good teams do.

While the importance of having a quality safety has increased since the pass interference rule enforcement after the 2004 season, it is still considered a support position that is the least important position on the defensive side of the ball.

While Eric Berry is an incredible athlete, he did nothing more statistically in his best season than a guy like Earl Thomas or Morgan Burnett did at the same position. A safety is basically limited to the number of opportunities that they are going to get in a game. Look at the numbers of the top safeties in the NFL. Their statistics are all virtually the same. The position caps itself in terms of production.

I don't know if by selecting Berry in round one that you get much if anything in terms of the position over say a guy like Robert Johnson in round five.

That's the problem with drafting a safety that high in the draft, and why you don't see many teams do it. Yes, I think that Berry has freakish athleticism, and has exceptional versatility in terms of what he brings to a defensive backfield. He is big enough, fast enough, athletic enough, instinctive enough to play any position in the backfield. In terms of giving you want you want out of his position, he's every bit the player as Bradford, Suh or Okung. Maybe even more. However, it's the position itself that is really going to make a GM/FO/Coach hesitate in terms of drafting him with a top ten pick, let alone a top five pick.

If Okung isn't available, I hope the Chiefs draft Berry. He'd be a better alternative than someone like Bryan Bulaga, Trent Williams or god forbid Dan Williams at that spot based on his athletic potential, college production and versatility alone. However, if they did pass on Berry, but picked up a guy like Morgan Burnett in the second, Darrell Stuckey in the third or a guy like Johnson or Myron Rolle in the fifth, I wouldn't be totally bummed out. They'd all offer the Chiefs an improved secondary.

In addition, you have to think about what the Chiefs want to do with Jarrad Page. Is he the free safety and do they then look at possible strong safeties? Or do they move him over to strong safety and draft a guy like Berry for the FS spot? Is a guy like Dajuan Morgan ready to turn the corner? Here's a third round draftee who's been with the team two seasons and was considered a versatile safety that could play a number of backfield positions.

I know that many people want and expect the Chiefs to draft Berry, but there are a lot of questions about that position as it relates to the Chiefs and the #5 pick.

Mecca 04-12-2010 06:08 PM

Myron Rolle, you know what I want? A safety that hasn't played in a year runs a 4.8 40 and has hype cause he's book smart, man sign me up.

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669066)
Myron Rolle, you know what I want? A safety that hasn't played in a year runs a 4.8 40 and has hype cause he's book smart, man sign me up.

He's a good guy thats never been arrested. Chiefs fans will love him.


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